I think Geert is probably correct though - seems to me the art "establishment" aren't interested in internet/ digital art, though maybe they have a different view of it from us on here. The art world remains a mystery to me, so I may well be wrong. Thank god for Furtherfield, and I would love to know who are the curators 'not' scared of it.
What's the ‘post-digital’ bandwagon? Dave On 30 September 2015 at 13:48, Annie Abrahams <bram....@gmail.com> wrote: > don't be small, don't think sectarism > Geert is closer to "us" than most "others" > get in contact with him, explain and connect, use his critical energy > > invite him to curate, to build, to discuss > > xxx > Annie > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:40 PM, NIKOS V <nikos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I see the relevance in this approach, allthough I have to say its >> allready to late for that criticism no? >> >> Moreover, is he really interested in art? >> >> If yes, as Marc says, where are the references and the names ? >> >> And why is Venice Biennial important?To whom???? >> >> 2015-09-30 15:36 GMT+03:00 marc.garrett <marc.garr...@furtherfield.org>: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> Geert needs to be more specific and highlight the curators who are 'not' >>> scared and who have been showing technical artwork such as Furtherifeld & >>> others - his words are not grounded and are too absolute, they do not >>> reflect reality... >>> >>> marc >>> >>> >>> http://conversations.e-flux.com/t/geert-lovink-on-social-media-and-the-arts/2581 >>> >>> "The absence at the 2015 Venice Bienale of digital arts and internet >>> works says it all. Curators are afraid to admit they are clueless and >>> continue their ignorant attitude towards art that deals with the digital in >>> a direct matter (while checking their smart phone). Everyone jumps on the >>> ‘post-digital’ bandwagon because that’s cute and safe. [...] Curators and >>> critics are more than happy to embrace the race, gender, even the >>> anthroposcene (whatever that is), but are blind for the techno-politics of >>> the equipment and media they are using themselves so intensely. The >>> contradictions are becoming absurd. Video was the last technology they had >>> to deal with, but then it stopped." >>> — Geert Lovink >>> >>> // >>> >>> enjoy, >>> >>> -- Paul >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ----- |(*,+,#,=)(#,=,*,+)(=,#,+,*)(+,*,=,#)| --- >>> http://paulhertz.net/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing >>> listNetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orghttp://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > > -- > > *26 09 14h* *vivre entre – from estranger to e-stranger*, une > *conférence performéefestival Magdalena, * La Bulle Bleue > <http://www.labullebleue.fr/#%21/magdalenaproject>, 285 rue du Mas de > Prunet, Montpellier > > aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/ > > > *besides, *online performances *On Object Agency * > with Martina Ruhsam > *archives* (text, script, video, images) > bram.org/besides/ > *Marc Garrett* interviewed me for the *Choose Your Muse* series on > *Furtherfield* > > furtherfield.org/features/interviews/choose-your-muse-interview-annie-abrahams > <http://www.furtherfield.org/features/interviews/choose-your-muse-interview-annie-abrahams> > <https://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/ed-atkins-remediating/> > > > <http://turbulence.org/commissions/besides/> > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >
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