john, evolution and change are not only possible, they are inevitable. there was a time before these systems existed (not really so long ago, in the greater scheme of things) and there will be a time after. unfortunately it probably won't be in our life time & i'm not placing any bets on how long it will take, or what it will be replaced with, but that's no reason not to strive for something better.
your eternal optimist, h : ) On 9/12/15 2:51 49AM, John Hopkins wrote: > On 08/Dec/15 16:59, Ana Valdés wrote: >> Women from Afghanistan Congo Bosnia and Armenia shared with us dark >> stories >> of rape forced marriages and impunity we need to strengthen the civil >> societies the question is how to achieve it? If the changes are made >> with > > Certainly fixing these problems is not compatible with any > fundamentalist religious system -- good luck changing that -- here in > the US, the idiots on the 'christian' fundamentalist right have been > and are actively tearing down what seems to be a thin veneer that > represents all the gains of civil society of the last 50 years. I > can't imagine that this is going to be 'easier' in the context of > radical Islamic situations, or even 'normal' Islamic societies. When > the religious system has already in place a rigid mapping of civil > relation and law, I don't believe an 'evolution' or 'change' is > possible. This would apply to all Abrahamic religions at least, and > many others as well. I don't see any possibility of evolution when > 'the Law' is 'the Law'. Is it possible to change such social systems? > If someone says 'yes', I'd like to hear the plan... > > jh > > > -- helen varley jamieson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz /Unaussprechnbarlich/, München, November-Dezember 2015 <http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/>
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