Can we have the ... part?

BTW, Could we just label the issues with NetCat (or maybe NetCat11) in the future NetCat processes?

I would like to add a public filter on NetCat issues and include in my dashboard:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12332552


On 11/2/18 1:50 AM, mic...@owsiak.org wrote:
I guess, something like this, would be pretty close if we don't have tags and 
are still willing to filter NetCAT based bugs:


project = NETBEANS and createdDate  >= '2018/10/8' and createdDate <= 
'2018/10/31' and reporter in ('mkowsiak', 'jkovalsky', 'geertjan', 'alextech', ...) 
ORDER BY created DESC


Michal

Dnia 1 listopada 2018 o 12:10 Geertjan Wielenga 
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> napisał(a):


Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the NetCAT
program?

Gj

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <mic...@owsiak.org> wrote:

Hello Jiri, hello Alexander,

here are my thoughts.

1. Tickets in strange state

The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay attention to
bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are gone. With
the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address each
issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev team is
you.
I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people who have no
idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, HTML, C/C++).

Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own
misunderstanding how open source software development works. Good news
is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying to
reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and setting their
status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do that?
I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated to the
process) that we should focus on testing only.

But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no dedicated
developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for developing
NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't raise this
kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, the landscape
of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it.

2. Tribe leaders are useless

I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset for
NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their tribe
members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing the work
load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding about
incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious ones to
the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If these do
not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program coordinators
which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT participants with
impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration.
OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are still
taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time that much.

I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports summarizing
activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew where it was
standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that NetCAT was
targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for themselves how to
update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, suits me
better :)

Michal

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