Well, you can specify that in your response. Gj
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:09 PM Sasha Alexander Romanenko <[email protected]> wrote: > Along the same lines, yes, first question, "What do you think about > netbeans java editing features"... no idea as I do not use it for java. > > пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 10:45, Christian Lenz <[email protected]>: > > > But the Survey is only multiple choice, I can remember a Survey back in > > the days of NetBeans 7 and I think 8 too, where we have some textfields > > where users can add most their most wanted Features and at the end of the > > Survey, after collecting the data, there was a overview of that. > > > > I did the Survey but did I miss such fields or Questions? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > > Gesendet: Freitag, 2. November 2018 13:39 > > An: netcat > > Betreff: Re: Some of my thought regarding NetCAT 10 > > > > Makes perfect sense, use the survey to indicate which issues you're most > > concerned about. > > > > Gj > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:53 PM Jiří Kovalský <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > I would suggest to identify then with BLOCKER severity. > > > > > > -Jirka > > > > > > Dne 2.11.2018 v 12:46 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a): > > > > Sure, fair enough, the problem though is how to identify them in the > > > issue > > > > tracker. > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:33 PM Sasha Alexander Romanenko < > > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> That defeats purpose of issue tracker. This information needs to be > > > readily > > > >> available on report or query, not dispersed emails. > > > >> > > > >> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г., 7:30 Geertjan Wielenga > > > >> [email protected]: > > > >> > > > >>> Maybe one way to approach this would be to ask everyone in NetCAT > to > > > >> list 3 > > > >>> of the issues they filed that they'd prioritize for fixing over all > > > >> others, > > > >>> regardless of whether they're blockers, i.e., simply 'my world > would > > > be a > > > >>> good deal better if the following 3 were to be fixed', just add > them > > > as a > > > >>> response in this thread. > > > >>> > > > >>> Gj > > > >>> > > > >>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:28 PM Alexander Romanenko < > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> I was setting "affected version" to 10 for my issues - it looked > > like > > > >>> that > > > >>>> was the label for this iteration of testing, so could maybe search > > by > > > >>> that > > > >>>> too. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:18, Geertjan Wielenga > > > >>>> <[email protected]>: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Well, I'd like to see all the issues that have been filed during > > the > > > >>>> NetCAT > > > >>>>> program. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I'd also somehow like to see which ones really need to be fixed, > > > >> which > > > >>>> ones > > > >>>>> can no longer be reproduced in 10-vc2 (maybe everyone in NetCAT > can > > > >>> check > > > >>>>> whether all their issues can still be reproduced in NetCAT and > then > > > >>> add a > > > >>>>> 'NetCAT 10' label so we can collect then all), which ones need to > > be > > > >>>>> prioritized, etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Gj > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jiří Kovalský < > > > >> [email protected] > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Why do we need such filter? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -Jirka > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dne 2.11.2018 v 04:20 Leo Donahue napsal(a): > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Good question, I was wondering if we should have been using > > > >> JIRA > > > >>>>> labels > > > >>>>>>> for NetCAT 9 and 10 issues. That would allow you to filter. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through > the > > > >>>>> NetCAT > > > >>>>>>>> program? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Gj > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander, > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> here are my thoughts. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1. Tickets in strange state > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay > > > >>> attention > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are > > > >>> gone. > > > >>>>> With > > > >>>>>>>>>> the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address > > > >> each > > > >>>>>>>>>> issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The > dev > > > >>>> team > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>>>>>>> you. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people > > > >> who > > > >>>> have > > > >>>>>> no > > > >>>>>>>>> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. > PHP, > > > >>>> HTML, > > > >>>>>>>> C/C++). > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own > > > >>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding how open source software development works. > > > >>> Good > > > >>>>> news > > > >>>>>>>>>> is that you can filter the issues reported in October, > trying > > > >> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and > > > >>> setting > > > >>>>>> their > > > >>>>>>>>>> status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do > > > >> that? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages > dedicated > > > >>> to > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>> process) that we should focus on testing only. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are > no > > > >>>>>> dedicated > > > >>>>>>>>> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for > > > >>>>> developing > > > >>>>>>>>> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I > won't > > > >>>> raise > > > >>>>>> this > > > >>>>>>>>> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, > > > >> the > > > >>>>>>>> landscape > > > >>>>>>>>> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2. Tribe leaders are useless > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious > asset > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>>>>>> NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with > their > > > >>>> tribe > > > >>>>>>>>>> members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then > distributing > > > >>> the > > > >>>>>> work > > > >>>>>>>>>> load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding > > > >> about > > > >>>>>>>>>> incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most > serious > > > >>>> ones > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If > > > >>> these > > > >>>>> do > > > >>>>>>>>>> not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program > > > >>>> coordinators > > > >>>>>>>>>> which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT > > > >> participants > > > >>>> with > > > >>>>>>>>>> impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities > are > > > >>>> still > > > >>>>>>>>> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this > time > > > >>> that > > > >>>>>> much. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports > > > >>>> summarizing > > > >>>>>>>>> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew > > > >> where > > > >>>> it > > > >>>>>> was > > > >>>>>>>>> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that > > > >>> NetCAT > > > >>>>> was > > > >>>>>>>>> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for > > > >>>> themselves > > > >>>>>> how > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, > > > >>> suits > > > >>>>> me > > > >>>>>>>>> better :) > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Michal > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > >> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, > > > >> visit: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=bav55yn4OB_qRWlPyg-3eJxbD1-VSSiM3rlfkRSmb04&s=F_nGJasZFETJzbaEQ5jlaHNRp9JVwzJm8vodU36w0M4&e= > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=OLXzSoP2kiRq-Dn69obkWr5NkRkOZUDIx6QFHxbtaWE&s=2tZUbz7_GDIGgaH0xgUYF19uodGj5PSUotAd-WpNpDc&e= > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > >
