The summary of the doclabs test is at:
http://www.doculabs.com/Press/WebAppServer_PR.htm

The PC week article is at:
http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,409380,00.html

Silverstream did not participate in the test.
Microsoft was the clear performance leader in the test.

My clear conclusion from the test is that run time performance on simple
applications is a bad criteria to use for judging application servers.
A much better assessment is support of standards.

Silverstream like most other application servers has a lead over NetDynamics
in support for J2EE.

Because of its J2EE support, Sun recommends NAS 4.0 for new applications.

Brendan
TeamND



                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Janaki R G, Cnsl, SCS-MLSD
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                Sent:   Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:46 AM
                To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Joel Parker Henderson'
                Cc:
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                Subject:        Re: [ND] Demise of Netdynamics

                What about Silver Stream Where does it stand?

                ganesh

                > ----------
                > From:         Joel Parker Henderson
                > Sent:         Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:10 AM
                > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > Cc:
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                > Subject:      Re: [ND] Demise of Netdynamics
                > 
                > 
                > > Why would I want to continue another minute developing
web products
                > using 
                > > Netdynamics?
                > 
                > Several reasons.
                > 
                > NetDynamics is the fastest, most robust Java application
server ever
                > built. Frankly, if you can find anything out there as good
as
                > NetDynamics right now, switch to it and let me know what
it is.
                > 
                > > I have just recommended termination of further
development on our
                > project 
                > > using Netdynamics because the risks are too great that
we would have to 
                > > rewrite the entire project with some future, unproven
iPlanet tool. Our 
                > 
                > For the future, NetDynamics and Kiva will be merged and
named the
                > Sun/Netscape iPlanet Application Server. This is all very
well proven
                > technology-- Kiva is blazingly fast and scalable at
non-Java code, and 
                > NetDynamics is blazingly fast and scalabe at pure Java
code, so you will
                > get the best of both worlds. I want to be very clear that
there is no
                > "miracle code" coming out of nowhere-- both servers have
been used
                > thoroughly by the largest customers in the world, in
mission-critical
                > environments, for years.
                > 
                > Yes, there will be issues of combining code, various event
models, J2EE
                > support, and so on. These are challenges for us at Sun,
and may take
                > us some time to iron out, but we absolutely will not put
out a bad or
                > defective product. Try putting yourself in our shoes: we
are combining our
                > two largest most important groups of customers, so we are
going to be
                > very, very careful about delivering a top-notch new
server.
                > 
                > We have two solid engineering teams that have worked
together for years,
                > and everyone is staying on board. Sun is absolutely
committed to building
                > the new Application Server, and Sun has the strength to
make it the de
                > facto industry standard.
                > 
                > For comparison, companies like WebLogic have very good app
servers,
                > and may be a bit ahead of us on future technologies like
J2EE.
                > If J2EE is crucially important to you right now, you may
want to
                > look at WebLogic. However, I would never bet my business
on BEA
                > the WebLogic parent company, and I would question BEA
salespeople
                > very carefully on why all BEA/WebLogic employees are
quitting.
                > 
                > > our business plan can not afford this expense and
uncertainty.
                > > Are we making the wrong business and technical decision?

                > 
                > I think it would be wise to asses the real risks. First,
ND5 will continue
                > to be supported for years, so your existing code will
continue to work.
                > 
                > Next, Sun will combine ND and Kiva, both of which are
proven app servers,
                > built by proven engineering teams. There is some risk that
it will take us
                > a little longer to do it carefully and prudently, so if
you need to be on
                > the absolute bleeding edge, you may want to look at other
products. 
                > 
                > Finally, the worst-case risk for you is that Sun will
totally screw things
                > up, and the iPlanet appserver will be a disaster. Even if
this happens,
                > you will still be using Java, still be building portable
business logic
                > objects, still be migrating toward JavaBeans, EJB,
Servlets, JSP, and the
                > rest of J2EE. 
                > 
                > In case it's relevant, I have evaluated the iPlanet source
code and the
                > engineers, and I am extremely impressed with iPlanet-- and
I don't say
                > that lightly. I'm a tech guy, not a marketing guy, so I
can say with
                > confidence that the iPlanet team is very skilled and has
solid software.
                > 
                > Do keep emailing me with questions, comments, etc.
                > and I'll be sure that people at the Alliance see them.
                > Also, talk to your sales reps and let them know how you
feel,
                > and that you need more information about the future of ND.
                > 
                > Cheers,
                > 
                > Joel Henderson
                > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > 
                > 
                >
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