Hi Joel!
A question here:
When you talk about migration from ND5+CSp to ND5+EJB, are you saying that
the spider classes will all be removed, and use only J2EE in ND5?
Thanks!
Rgds,
Alvin
>From: Joel Parker Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Madhukumar Seshadri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: Curt Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED], lim alvin
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>Subject: Re: [ND5] ND for two full years
>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:01:06 -0800 (PST)
>
>
> > Two years sounds good. What about the future?
>
>Beyond two years, Sun is moving towards J2EE.
>So are all other major app server vendors,
>except for Microsoft of course which is
>still pitching Windows 2000 and MTS.
>
> > What about incremental costs for procuring iPlanet
> > server? First of all is it a incremental procurement
> > cost or do I have to buy it new?
>
>Pricing hasn't been set yet-- typically we have set prices
>when the feature list is complete and the product has been
>through review by beta customers, analysts, and the press.
>
> > Does sun has a roadmap for ND folks and KIVA folks to
> > embrace iPlanet?
>
>Yes, absolutely. The broad roadap is easy:
>
>Kiva3 --> NAS4 --> NAS4 with EJB --> iPlanet App Server 6
>ND3 --> ND4 --> ND5 with EJB --> iPlanet App Server 6
>
>The migration guides that I discussed before will have specifics,
>examples, tools, and all the rest of the information that you need.
>
> > I don't know how many CIOs lost their jobs because of going the ND way.
>
>That seems odd to write. The answer happens to be zero.
>
>I know that there are a lot of questions going forward.
>There will be plenty of time to get these questions
>answered in the kind of detail that you want and need.
>
>ND5 is (and will continue to be) an exceptionally powerful platform for
>running your web applications. According to all press reviews, ND5 is the
>most powerful and scalable cross-platform app server, and I expect this
>will be true until iPlanet App Server 6 debuts next year.
>
>The only difference is that new customers will buy IAS6 instead of ND5,
>and that your new projects can take advantage of the open EJB standard.
>
>Migrating to EJB is something that everyone who uses any app server
>will likely want to do sometime in the next year or two, because EJB
>will improve key deployment issues like portability and scalability.
>
>I want to emphasize that the major migration hurdle will *not* be from
>ND5 to IAS6, but rather from ND5+CSp to ND5+EJB. When you have your
>projects migrated to EJB, it will be quite easy to move them to IAS6,
>or to WebLogic, or to any other EJB/J2EE application server you want.
>
>So your CIO can do three things to keep his job:
>
>1. Realize that ND5 will be around for quite a while,
> and that all of his investment is fully protected.
> If he needs official statements, contact Bill Lazar
> by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>2. For new projects, encourage his developers to
> use ND5 with EJB, which they can do right now.
> For existing projects, have a two-year plan to
> migrate them from ND3 to ND4 to ND5 with EJB.
>
>3. When IAS6 is ready next year, have his developers
> evaluate it and compare it to other EJB appservers
> like those from BEA and IBM; choose the best one.
> All his ND5+EJB projects will be in good shape
> and ready to move easily to the best EJB server.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Joel
>
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