Afternoon Joel, still no comment on this? :-)
-Gregory
Gregory Bohmer wrote:
> Joel - If I might interject here, what is your opinion on those
> shops that wish to have an HTML client but do not want
> to use the proprietary NetD event API and would rather
> use javax.servlets (not in NetD4). I read that servlets are
> partly in NetD 5.0.1SP2 but even then, this is not
> supported for "Deployment". Please comment on this.
>
> Thanks Joel for your feedback on this and for your
> valuable input to this forum.
>
> Regards,
> Gregory, HHMI
>
> Joel Parker Henderson wrote:
>
> > > Two years sounds good. What about the future?
> >
> > Beyond two years, Sun is moving towards J2EE.
> > So are all other major app server vendors,
> > except for Microsoft of course which is
> > still pitching Windows 2000 and MTS.
> >
> > > What about incremental costs for procuring iPlanet
> > > server? First of all is it a incremental procurement
> > > cost or do I have to buy it new?
> >
> > Pricing hasn't been set yet-- typically we have set prices
> > when the feature list is complete and the product has been
> > through review by beta customers, analysts, and the press.
> >
> > > Does sun has a roadmap for ND folks and KIVA folks to
> > > embrace iPlanet?
> >
> > Yes, absolutely. The broad roadap is easy:
> >
> > Kiva3 --> NAS4 --> NAS4 with EJB --> iPlanet App Server 6
> > ND3 --> ND4 --> ND5 with EJB --> iPlanet App Server 6
> >
> > The migration guides that I discussed before will have specifics,
> > examples, tools, and all the rest of the information that you need.
> >
> > > I don't know how many CIOs lost their jobs because of going the ND way.
> >
> > That seems odd to write. The answer happens to be zero.
> >
> > I know that there are a lot of questions going forward.
> > There will be plenty of time to get these questions
> > answered in the kind of detail that you want and need.
> >
> > ND5 is (and will continue to be) an exceptionally powerful platform for
> > running your web applications. According to all press reviews, ND5 is the
> > most powerful and scalable cross-platform app server, and I expect this
> > will be true until iPlanet App Server 6 debuts next year.
> >
> > The only difference is that new customers will buy IAS6 instead of ND5,
> > and that your new projects can take advantage of the open EJB standard.
> >
> > Migrating to EJB is something that everyone who uses any app server
> > will likely want to do sometime in the next year or two, because EJB
> > will improve key deployment issues like portability and scalability.
> >
> > I want to emphasize that the major migration hurdle will *not* be from
> > ND5 to IAS6, but rather from ND5+CSp to ND5+EJB. When you have your
> > projects migrated to EJB, it will be quite easy to move them to IAS6,
> > or to WebLogic, or to any other EJB/J2EE application server you want.
> >
> > So your CIO can do three things to keep his job:
> >
> > 1. Realize that ND5 will be around for quite a while,
> > and that all of his investment is fully protected.
> > If he needs official statements, contact Bill Lazar
> > by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > 2. For new projects, encourage his developers to
> > use ND5 with EJB, which they can do right now.
> > For existing projects, have a two-year plan to
> > migrate them from ND3 to ND4 to ND5 with EJB.
> >
> > 3. When IAS6 is ready next year, have his developers
> > evaluate it and compare it to other EJB appservers
> > like those from BEA and IBM; choose the best one.
> > All his ND5+EJB projects will be in good shape
> > and ready to move easily to the best EJB server.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joel
> >
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