Ladislav Lhotka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On 10 Jan 2017, at 09:39, Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 09:20:36AM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> >> 
> >> I think we need protocol and YANG specs that are not tied to any
> >> particular model and that are thus capable of matching unforeseen
> >> real-world implementations. This is no sci-fi, HTTP and XML schema
> >> languages work this way.
> >> 
> > 
> > I disagree that HTTP and XML schema languages do the same thing. Our
> > goal is interoperable configuration of network devices; the notion of
> 
> Even now, a client that's programmed to write straight to running
> isn't interoperable with a server that has candidate and read-only
> running. A RESTCONF server that supports only JSON isn't interoperable
> with a client that supports only XML.
> 
> We are not in a situation that every pair of a randomly chosen server
> and client need to be interoperable. It's IMO perfectly fine if IoT
> and ISP networks use different clients. Yet, both can still use the
> same RESTCONF, same YANG, and even same YANG modules.

The fact is that that data models are written with a certain set of
protocol features and datastores in mind (the "meta-model").  Some
examples:

If we had an "operational-state" datastore like the one proposed, we
would not see the /foo vs /foo-state split.

If SNMP would have had a CREATE operation, MIBs would not have used
RowStatus.  If NETCONF didn't have a way to create instances, we would
have seen something similar in YANG models.

If NETCONF had a way to add comments to any node in a datastore, we
wouldn't have "leaf description" sprinkled throughout the models.

If NETCONF didn't have a generic way to filter retreived data, we'd
see lots of specific get-* rpcs in YANG models.



/martin

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