Hi Lada,

I think some of what you're getting at is in these guidelines:

  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-01#section-5

But you're thinking about something more generalized?

Kent  // contributor


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> On 17 Mar 2017, at 15:46, Robert Wilton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/03/2017 14:32, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
>>> On 17 Mar 2017, at 15:04, Robert Wilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Would 7950bis be allowed to have a normative reference to an Informational 
>>> RFC that defined the YANG datastores?
>> My idea is that 7950bis should be made independent of any particular set of 
>> datastores, so such a normative reference shouldn't be needed.
> OK, if 70590bis was entirely datastore agnostic, then there would need to be 
> a description of how YANG applies to a particular set of datastores (in 
> particular the config: true|false statement), and which datastores are 
> validated.  Would that go in the revised

I don't think that config true/false is necessarily tied to a particular set of 
datastores, it can be generalized to RW/RO.

>  datastores architecture or somewhere else?  It wouldn't make sense to have 
> to repeat this for every network configuration protocol.

I think the structure of datastores and validation workflow could be supplied 
as extra info, see item #3 near the end of this message:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/msg17673.html

Lada

> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
>> 
>> Lada
>> 
>>> If we did a 7950bis document (and it isn't clear that one is actually 
>>> required to support the revised datastores draft) then does that mean we 
>>> would also need to have a new version of YANG?
>>> 
>>> That would potentially seem like a backwards step.  Also what would it mean 
>>> for an implementation that is aware of the new datastores but is using a 
>>> mix of YANG modules with different versions?
>>> 
>>> I don't understand why the revised datastores draft should not be standards 
>>> track once the various appendices have been moved out, noting that they are 
>>> really only in the one draft at this stage because it seemed like that 
>>> would make it easier for folks to review and comment on.
>>> 
>>> Is the only issue here which WG the draft is being worked on?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/03/2017 13:22, Mehmet Ersue wrote:
>>>> I think YANG identities should be standardized with 7950bis.
>>>> 
>>>> Mehmet
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:28 PM
>>>>> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email protected]>;
>>>>> Mehmet Ersue <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: 'Kent Watsen' <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [netmod] draft netmod charter update proposal
>>>>> 
>>>>> Juergen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for the input.  I think your point highlights how the technical
>>>>> contents of a document drives the intended status of a document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS as a reminder to all, intended status of documents is *not* typically
>>>>> included in charters and are not included in the distributed version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On March 16, 2017 2:44:53 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 02:50:06PM +0100, Mehmet Ersue wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That said different people including Netconf WG co-chairs think the DS
>>>>>>> concept document is Informational in nature and should be published as
>>>>> an
>>>>>>> Informational concept to be used in and adopted for the needs in
>>>> diverse
>>>>>>> protocol WGs. This is as I think also important to avoid an overlapping
>>>>>>> between NETCONF and NETMOD charters.
>>>>>> The current datastore draft includes concrete YANG idenity definitions
>>>>>> for datastores and origins and these definitions better be standards
>>>>>> track.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /js
>>>>>> 
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