Hi,

You can put whatever text you want in a draft, and see it gets approved
for the RFC version. You can put whatever text you want in non-IETF modules.
But consider the impact carefully of turning a plain text string into
source code.

There is no agreement on the markdown that is "lightweight" and needs to be
supported.
This seems like a significant amount of work to resolve.  The NETMOD WG
already has a full plate
of high-priority work.  We should not slow that work down for anything.

Tools that expect the description-stmt to be plain text may break if
markdown is added.
The ability to translate the description to other languages is lost (for
example).


Andy


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Robert Wilton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Lada,
>
>
> On 20/04/2017 13:28, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
>
>> Kent Watsen <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> All,
>>>
>>> We're a couple days away from the 2-week window.  As of now, the
>>> majority does not support adopting this draft.  Any remaining
>>> opinions?
>>>
>>>
>>> Lada,
>>>
>>> The objections seem to be concern for net readability, and for the
>>> importance of the problem relative to other activities.  For the
>>> former case, it may help if you posted some examples.  For the
>>>
>> A typical lightweight markup language is markdown, and I believe most
>> people are familiar with it - if not, examples are easy to find.
>>
>> The bare minimum of markdown features from which even existing modules
>> could benefit may be this:
>>
>> - multiple paragraphs (separated by one or more blank lines) that can be
>>    re-flowed
>>
>> - bulleted and numbered lists, possibly with multiple levels and
>>    multiple paragraphs per list item
>>
>> - hyperlinks, such as [RFC 7950](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7950)
>>
>> and perhaps also
>>
>> - *emphasis* and **strong emphasis**
>>
>> - code blocks for showing example snippets where line breaks need to be
>> retained.
>>
> For what it is worth, this is effective what I was recommending goes in
> the draft.
>
> I.e. you say that default markdown language is markdown, but
> implementations are expected to at least support xxx, where xxx is
> something like that list above.
>
> That way at least implementors can know what they need to support, and
> authors can know what markdown they can reasonably expect to use.
>
>
>> latter case, we may want to keep this draft cooking in the
>>> background.
>>>
>> I am going to use the above conventions in my modules, and support them
>> in my tools. That's basically all what I need for the time being.
>>
> If you have the spare time, perhaps it is worth updating the ID with that
> list above, at least as a record in case this gets picked up again in
> future.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
>
>> Lada
>>
>>
>>> Kent // as co-chair and potential shepherd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Shafer <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>> Andy Bierman writes:
>>>>
>>>>> IMO it is more robust not to assume people never see the real YANG
>>>>> statements.
>>>>>
>>>> Exactly.  We made YANG readable so that we wouldn't _need_ to view
>>>> it using tools.  This was one of the "insta-death" factors for UML.
>>>>
>>> I have to reiterate that the idea is to continue to be able to view YANG
>>> modules *without* using tools, but provide some aid to tools that can
>>> make
>>> use of certain well-defined lightweight markup conventions.
>>>
>>> Everybody with a practical experience of converting YANG automatically
>>> to something else (not only to HTML, it starts already with YIN) knows
>>> that transferring descriptions and other similar texts is tricky.
>>>
>>> Lada
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>>   Phil
>>>>
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