Hi Suresh,

Thank you for your review.  Comments below.

Kent // as co-author


> On Sep 5, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Suresh Krishnan via Datatracker 
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> Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-09: Discuss
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> DISCUSS:
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> After some thought I think there are two things about this document that make
> me uncomfortable enough to ballot Discuss.
> 
> a) Due to its home in the netmod WG it is highly likely that people outside 
> the
> yang community have not paid enough attention to this work. Since this is
> applicable to code fragments of all kinds, I think the home chosen for this 
> RFC
> might have inadvertently limited input from the broader community.

Agreed.  The original I-D was targeted for IAB stream.  It wasn't going to be 
presented in NETMOD, but did (by coercion).  During the presentation I 
mentioned that its applicability was more than NETMOD and that it should go 
thru IAB, just like the "xml2rfc" RFCs (7749 and 7991).  The working group felt 
that it should stay in the WG and hence here we are.  :sigh:


> b) Given a) I think it is better that this document go forward as an
> Informational document rather than a BCP so that use of this technique becomes
> optional, without the force of a BCP behind it.

I'm okay with this, modulo my comment to Alissa.   Actually, if we only view 
the RFC as specifying a format then, in my mind, it doesn't actually contain 
the "best practice".  FWIW, SHOULD appears only once, in a sentence stating 
that folding SHOULD be automated, in a section titled "Goals".  That said, if 
not a BCP, then how to encourage people to use it, so that automation works?  
For this reason alone, it seems that either the draft should be a BCP or 
Datatracker is updated to auto-fold as needed.  Perhaps  the right answer is to 
do Informational now and hope that Datatracker is updated in time?



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> COMMENT:
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> I do agree with my Abstaining colleagues that this should probably not be on
> the IETF stream but I think the work is useful enough to go forward.

It should've been on the IAB stream.  Whether it should go forward, after 
having the BCP attribute removed, or re-run via the IAB stream is up to the 
IESG.


Kent // as co-author


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