Hi Suresh, 

Please see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-10 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-10> for updates. 
 It's now Informational.

Kent // as co-author




> On Sep 5, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Suresh,
> 
> Thank you for your review.  Comments below.
> 
> Kent // as co-author
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Suresh Krishnan via Datatracker 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-09: Discuss
>> 
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>> 
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding/ 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> DISCUSS:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> After some thought I think there are two things about this document that make
>> me uncomfortable enough to ballot Discuss.
>> 
>> a) Due to its home in the netmod WG it is highly likely that people outside 
>> the
>> yang community have not paid enough attention to this work. Since this is
>> applicable to code fragments of all kinds, I think the home chosen for this 
>> RFC
>> might have inadvertently limited input from the broader community.
> 
> Agreed.  The original I-D was targeted for IAB stream.  It wasn't going to be 
> presented in NETMOD, but did (by coercion).  During the presentation I 
> mentioned that its applicability was more than NETMOD and that it should go 
> thru IAB, just like the "xml2rfc" RFCs (7749 and 7991).  The working group 
> felt that it should stay in the WG and hence here we are.  :sigh:
> 
> 
>> b) Given a) I think it is better that this document go forward as an
>> Informational document rather than a BCP so that use of this technique 
>> becomes
>> optional, without the force of a BCP behind it.
> 
> I'm okay with this, modulo my comment to Alissa.   Actually, if we only view 
> the RFC as specifying a format then, in my mind, it doesn't actually contain 
> the "best practice".  FWIW, SHOULD appears only once, in a sentence stating 
> that folding SHOULD be automated, in a section titled "Goals".  That said, if 
> not a BCP, then how to encourage people to use it, so that automation works?  
> For this reason alone, it seems that either the draft should be a BCP or 
> Datatracker is updated to auto-fold as needed.  Perhaps  the right answer is 
> to do Informational now and hope that Datatracker is updated in time?
> 
> 
> 
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>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I do agree with my Abstaining colleagues that this should probably not be on
>> the IETF stream but I think the work is useful enough to go forward.
> 
> It should've been on the IAB stream.  Whether it should go forward, after 
> having the BCP attribute removed, or re-run via the IAB stream is up to the 
> IESG.
> 
> 
> Kent // as co-author
> 
> 

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