I never really got a grip on how far NetSukuku's development got, but i do agree with you that it's been too silent for the very thing that could rid the world of censorship and free society of the oldfashioned ideas of intellectual property as a juxtaposition to the public domain. DAAh!! (-:
I agree with Femias observations and conclusions. If the project is close enough to completion, that could be a short-term goal. If there's still a lot of work to do, maybe we'd do good to do some brainstorming first. Here are a few things i have in mind. I'm all new to this matter, and i am running into more (other) projects that do good work on this field. If what i'm talking about already exists: so much te better. We could move faster towards putting all the pieces together. - Like already mentioned: Why restrict the size to 2^32 when we already know this might be a limitation later on? - Can the protocol be used to "host" data? I'm thinking of the SourceForge site blocking (under pressure of the US government) access from "black-list" countries like Iran and Yemen. The protocol can help people from those countries to have access, but as far as i know, the protocol in itself does not have the ability to 'mirror' sites. Technically, this would be more or less identical to shared data in a way Torrent files are shared. It would be awesome to not only have the traffic decentralized, but also provide file storage of popular and/or controversial files. - (i think this is pretty much covered in its current state, but i've been meaning to ask about this) In Holland, where i live, there's currently a debate about how long providers (ISPs) have to store information about their customers internet behaviour. This is to track "criminal"/"dangerous" internet behaviour. Even though it's by most concidered against peoples right of privacy, it's still a political danger. Does the protocol, when used over fixed lines, leave traces of use that are "readable"? Is the protocol in itself recognizable? If so, the entire thing might one day be banned in certain countries, and if so, we might want to think about ways to "morph" the traffic...? Please don't hesitate to tell me i'm too dumb for the stuff i'm trying to wrap my mind around. (-: I'm just very intrigued by this stuff, mainly by the ethical and social sides of this project. I hope i'm of at least _some_ help. gr - bart Ps: Asbesto, can you explain what you make of the "minchia" for non-italian readers? ;-> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Vincenzo Femia <[email protected]> wrote: > In my personal opinion, original Netsukuku project is dead. > When "Telecom Italia", biggest (and only) italian Internet provider > acquired > original developer, true intentions was to block this project and idea. > But, instead to officially stop this project (really Telecom cannot do it) > best thing was to branch a new, unworking, project: pywtk. > This Python version of Netsukuku never worked, have also syntax errors in > it! > His aim is to waste time in users and to ingenerate idea that Netsukuku > principle > cannot ever work! > Also, mantain original project site and mail list is useful, for Telecom, > to check if other guys are developing original idea to block them too. > So, always in my opinion, is useful to create a new project, based on > original > C versions of Netsukuku. > First things to do will be make original C version working again with > actual > kernels. I suggest for name of new project "FirePhoenix". > Next important step is to include FirePhoenix Network Protocols inside > official Kernel 2.6 development and modules. > In mail list will be useful using GPG to avoid "Telecom Italia" spyes > interferences... > Best regards, Enzo. > > > 2010/3/5 claudio <[email protected]> > >> Hi all, >> >> short presentation: my name is Claudio, from Rome (Italy); I met netsukuku >> looking for projects that propose Internet alternative. >> >> I'd like to understand better some aspect. I hope that this is the right >> place where to ask technical questions. >> >> First question: >> >> if netsukuku goal is "handle together an ad-hoc network even bigger than >> the Internet", do you think that 2^32 is enough? >> >> Thank you >> Claudio >> >> >> -- >> This story begins on August 8, 1970, and ends eighteen days later, on >> August 26 of the same year. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Netsukuku mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dyne.org/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Netsukuku mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dyne.org/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku > >
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