Well... http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network#Protocols
I am not an expert on this stuff, but basically... there are now quite a few different efforts going to developing meshes and darknets, for accomplishing different things, some simple ones using all sorts of protocols, i think OLSR is the most common one for the low level, but some implement others. Now, Commotion, attempts to use OLSR and do some dynamic routing, that basically means it tries to set a wireless mesh in fast changing environment, so like an android client walks it, routes some traffic and disappear as range stops, it also has a nice feature which allows you to connect like a normal managed client (though in that case you don't route traffic and are therefore a leech). Now, there are two concepts which we need to clarify, with some similar aspects, namely a mesh vs. darknet. A mesh network connects clients by "chaining" them in order from source to destination, a wireless mesh does that over the wireless. suppose you have a fairly large mesh, and you run a service (a website say) which is only accessible to people on that mesh network, this is a local network service, it's also in a sense a darknet, if you employ high encryption and VPN like routing in the mesh level, it's a darknet proper. infact that's exactly how i2p works (worked), each client holds a few VPNs, and services were encrypted on each hop (hop pair really). The way tor works is by hoping 3 times and going to an exit node, if you enter a .onion address, all it does is hop in the 'mesh' or relays inside tor from you to the destination. technically, it's not VPN (I am not sure what makes the tor relays not a VPN chain but there you go). Now cjdns, also works with VPNs, in some ways it's similar in design to i2p, you also have the ability (Or maybe in the future should have the ability) to join this darknet over the wireless, the idea i think is that your phone will open a vpn to your neighbour's phone, which will open one to his neighbour's phone which will open one to his router which will open one for some others over the internet etc. this is how the routing is done, the services are implemented on top of that, and collectively referred to as hyperboria. setting up a few routers to be a static mesh is trivial, it's been done regularly for local networks for ... i don't know... 30 years. just ad-hoc networks essentially. it has the advantage that is you take a router out and there is another path it will use that, but generally, it's not designed to change routing rapidly enough for our dream network. There are a lot of efforts in different directions for different things. Mind you, I have spent time reading about these but not a lot of time trying those out. Netsukuku is a brilliant design, if you want to kick some life back into it I will at the very least cheer you up from the side, but will probably do more than that. p.s. I think i2p routers do use java applets btw. On 13/05/13 13:43, Valeska Grim wrote: > > Could you list the other more advanced projects please? I think > there is enough room for everyone's projects, And I think netsukuku > should expand to fill it's lot. I am willing to help, I just need > a bit of help, As does my friend. I do appreciate your input, And I > have searched some of those things now, Thank you. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Yussi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 2:34:44 > AM *Subject:* Re: [Netsukuku] Internet lock down moving > forward?... > > I haven't properly tested those, but there are now several > alternatives to netsukuku, I hear commotion is quite good, cjdns > also looks promising. > > The very neat thing about the netsukuku's design for me was the > addressing system (the whole node,gnode,ggnode...), but as far as > a dynamic wireless meshes goes, there are now quite a few more > active projects which are at much more advanced stage than this. > > for not so dynamic meshes, you can use OSLR or BATMAN, those are > both mature projects. > > for darknets, cjdns/hyperboria looks very good, and gnunet is one > to keep an eye on. I used to have i2p running, but it's java based > so I guess until someone implements the whole thing in something > other then java it's out of the game. > > Those are my two cents. > > > On 13/05/13 08:44, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> >> available here: http://anonymos.earthsociety.org > <http://anonymos.earthsociety.org/> >> >> For one of my future options with this device I'm interested in >> using Netsukuku instead of normal wifi. >> >> Open to hearing ideas/thoughts. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tyler Jordan > > _______________________________________________ Netsukuku mailing > list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku > > > > > _______________________________________________ Netsukuku mailing > list [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku _______________________________________________ Netsukuku mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsukuku
