*nods* Yeah, I don't really like hyperboria, And cjdns. I looked for a very
long time after I found netsukuku for something better because it was in such
early stages. And I found CJDNS and many others, And they honestly don't even
compare.
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From: Ricardo Lanziano <[email protected]>
To: Netsukuku discussion list <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:01:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Netsukuku] Some first node
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Yussi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> There is a C++ port of I2P at http://projects.i2p but it is not fully
>> functional yet.
>>
>> If you want, we can try to set up some tunnels and hook up some services,
>> I have a machine I can spare in I2P.
>>
>> I rather use I2P than TOR (CJDNS is out of the question).
>LOL, is this a matter of pride? There are a lot of good people on cjdns,
>and it's not a bad idea. I don't think we should position ourselves
>against it, and when possible we should try and work together.
>
No, of course not. My main problem with CJDNS is that is *not*
a secure darknet because it is not anonymous, in contrast with I2P.
I2P is an anonymous mixnet with networking layer *on top*. It
vastly differs from CJDNS.
In fact, you can't compare CJDNS to I2P. I2P builts unidirectional
tunnels of n lenght that lasts 10 mins or so, and you need to build
a tunnel for both receiving and sending data, that are always changing.
You get a totally different return path for the same connection, ie: IRC,
web, XMPP... I2P provides *anonymity*.
CJDNS offers you a static path for your packets, since tunnels crosses
for the same machines.
The main idea of Netsukuku is that the network grows itselfs, free
of censorship, control, and single-point of failure. So, yes, I think
it's a bad idea if we want Netsukuku to grow in features and in
research.
I am not against CJDNS nor the people that runs in Hyperboria (an
invite-only network iirc? ;) ) but in terms of features, related work
and anonymity and censorship resistant mindset, I rather look at
I2P.
For example, taking real content authentication for the network:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.73.2699
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Ricardo Lanziano
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