On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Yussi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Basically, If i understand it right, once we have a VPN, any one of us
> can open a tunnel and connect to it, and it'll form some basis for a
> network.
>
> I actually have ntk running on several devices, one of which, my
> raspberry pi, which I can keep online most of the time. The problem is,
> I don't have anywhere to connect to. while it's nice to play around with
> my own LAN, it's pretty pointless.
>
> I can set up the VPN on my end, the problem is, my IP changes every few
> days, and so I cannot publish it.
>
> There are other ways too, I have a TOR hidden service address (which I
> am not using), so we can in theory route over TOR, we can use CJDNS as
> the basis for our infrastructure, or even I2P tunnels, but all of those
> are kind of hacks, even a VPN is not ideal, but it's the best we can do
> until we have enough people that can just connect to one another to form
> a real network.
>
> Incidentally, I love I2P, and if someone will show me any evidence that
> all the JAVA vulnerabilities do not effect it, I would love to go back
> and use it, and I should have no problem using i2p tunnels for ntk.
>

I can help you with some I2P tunnels aswell. I do not have any "evidence"
whatsoever, other than one should keep the goddamn Java up-to-date :'D

There is a C++ port of I2P at http://projects.i2p but it is not fully
functional yet.

If you want, we can try to set up some tunnels and hook up some services,
I have a machine I can spare in I2P.

I rather use I2P than TOR (CJDNS is out of the question).


> If someone has another idea about how we can kick start this network,
> please throw them at the list so we can figure out what's the best way
> forwards.
>

What about (not in particular order):

1. Get some nodes working and interconnected via Internet (darknets, etc)
2. Get the wiki organized: documentation update, document consolidation
from all the different places, etc.
3. Get people to review the theory.
4. Actually *run* some services in the network.

-- 
Ricardo Lanziano
To iterate is human, to recurse, divine.
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