Has Hermann become Friedrich here? Or is it vice versa? On 11 September 2018 at 08:56, David Garcia < [email protected]> wrote:
> Yes thanks Florian- so interesting to read this mangling of Gramsci by > Yiannopolous. The extraordinary images of him cavorting in a bath of > pig’s blood in a scandalously naive (or simply cynical) NY Chelsea > gallery, purportedly > mourning the lives lost to Islamic fundementalism- he looked for all the > world like > a "bargain basement" Herman Nietzsche. This plumbed new depths of > shock/kitch (is > that a genre there days- looking at Yiannopolous’s erstwhile friend Lucien > Wintrich > photo series Twinks for Trump its beginning to look that way). > Actually this hides the more serious development that Yiannopolous’s > tactics have > re-purposed the venerable Camp sensibility which he cleverly connects with > Lulz, as > sharing the ability to be shocking whilst simultaneously using their > respective modes > as solvents to neutralize moral indignation. > > 1. A couple of asides at the end of last year Wolfgang Streeck wrote a very > interesting piece for London review of Books called ‘You Need a Gun’ which > argued that Gramsci concept of hegemony could not be understood if it were > seen > to be coercion free- but that coercion takes many forms with violence as a > background > option always available if all else fails. Though there is much that there > may be much > that Bannon and the other Gramscian’s of the new American far right get > wrong but this > is one aspect they have understood quite well. > > 2. This is quite tenuous association but listening to your talk I thought > of the English Marxist > philosopher Peter Dews’s book -The Idea of Evil- interrogates a certain > bias in history > and political thought that ‘people who are pessiistic about human nature > tend to be > right wing, while left wing thinkers tend to be optimistic about human > nature (in Dews’s > view naively so) in a recent interview Dews declared that he wanted to > disrupt this > alignment.. Whilst listening to your talk in Berlin I wondered if there > was something like an > exploration of the affective consequences of such a re-alignment in your > talk and the questions > that this might ask of us. > > Best > > David > > > > > On 10 Sep 2018, at 23:58, Florian Cramer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, David - as I said in the discussion in Berlin, Stewart and I ended > up > in a weird place where we practically taught the "Alt-Right" its own > history. > One shouldn't read too much into its grasp of Gramsci though. This is what > Milo > Yiannopolous wrote about him in the original manuscript of his book > 'Dangerous' (that Simon & Schuster ended up not publishing): > > And so, in the 1920s, the Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci decided that the > time had come for a new form of revolution -- one based on culture, not > class. According to Gramsci, the reason why the proletariat had failed to > rise up was because old, conservative ideas like loyalty to one's country, > family values, and religion held too much sway in working-class > communities. > If that sounds familiar to Obama's comment about guns and religion, that's > because it should. His line of thinking, as we shall see, is directly > descended from the ideological tradition of Gramsci. Gramsci argued that > as a > precursor to revolution, the old traditions of the west -- or the 'cultural > hegemony,' as he called it -- would have to be systematically broken down. > To > do so, Gramsci argued that "proletarian" intellectuals should seek to > challenge the dominance of traditionalism in education and the media, and > create a new revolutionary culture. Gramsci's ideas would prove > phenomenally > influential. If you've ever wondered why forced to take diversity or gender > studies courses at university, or why your professors all seem to hate > western civilization ... Well ' ..new you knew who to blame Gramsci. > > (Because of the lawsuit, the manuscript is publicly available here: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjc0n5dll244o2w/Milo%20Y% > 20book%20with%20edits.pdf?dl=0 > ) > -F > -- > blog: https://pod.thing.org/people/13a6057015b90136f896525400cd8561 > bio: http://floriancramer.nl > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > -- Bronaċ
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