Yes please, and thank you, Geert. The endless navel-gazing of the WEIRD
nations’ senescence is recursively dull. The point is not what do the usual
suspects think about China (or whatever proxy you like), it’s whether they — we
— can extend the nettime project. Not so it can absorb new milieus; if
anything, so it can be absorbed by them.
Cheers, Ted
On Jan 20, 2021, 4:01 AM -0500, Geert Lovink , wrote:
On 19 Jan 2021, at 9:52 pm, bronac ferran <bron...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The List needs a new Topic
Bronac, I agree. This was a tense thread, but also a worthty enof the Trump er
On a bright note, look at this video again: Trump rapping China, China, China:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
In general it would be would for nettime to focus more on China :) Or let’s be
more clear, to fellow Chinese critics, artists, coders, theorists, researchers
and other dreamers. To get an understanding of the Party and its relation to
the business elites is one, but can we still have a direct dialogue with people
out there? Or how dialogues with Hong Kong? How are people coping there, after
the great showdown of 2019-2020? How can we strenghten ties with critical
forces in Taiwan?
With Trump gone our own Chinese Question (and how to relate with the official
forces there) will be even more important as the authoritian grip of the Xi
regime is only further tightening. Will you except an invitation from a school
or art institution in Shanghai? Will there be a cultural boycott of China soon?
In whose interest owuld this be? Has Hong Kong already lost its status aparte
for you?
What else is there to discuss on nettime as the world moves on to Telegram and
Signal? What to make of social media governance? I do not think this will get
us anywhere... Internet as public infrastructure aka stack… yes. The clash of
cultures and strategies in the (de)centralization debate are unresolved. Can
federation scale? How to dismantle Google and Facebook?
Ciao, Geert
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