Sean, et al,
While i realize that many on this list may have picked this talk up
already, I was struck by the themes that resonate with this post of yours
invoking 'feminism' and 'critical race theory' so, I am reposting
here...though it may not resuscitate the thread! Also, because students
have taken to 'discord' like absolute crazy and it offers some excellent
possibilities for the incubation of new practices...etc. molly

 STRIKING THE DIS_CORDPresented by Goldsmiths Computing Department,
Goldsmiths Digital Studios and Lumen Art Projects

Recoding feminisms across digital art practice

This panel discussion, hosted on Zoom, will disrupt and reimagine the
agency of feminist and female identified perspectives within the context of
an expanded approach to networked and digital art practices.

How do contemporary feminist digital art practitioners interface with
dominant skewed histories of cyberfeminism, and what are the new spaces
emerging for the encoding of new creative languages of feminisms that
engage with the complexities and discords across computational and
networked feminist positions?

Register for your free place here
<https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/x/striking-the-dis-cord-recoding-feminisms-across-digital-art-tickets-151789411215>
.

*Featuring work by Clareese Hill, Goldsmiths PhD researcher *

Title of Work: Abolitionist Methodologies Towards Knowledge Production
Through the Creation of Immersive Digital Spaces.

Clareese Hill is a practice-based researcher who explores the validity of
the word "identity" through her perspective as an Afro-Caribbean American
woman and her societal role projected on her to perform as a Black feminist
academic. She has performed lectures at The Royal College of Art,
Goldsmiths University of London, The Chicago Art Department, and Smack
Mellon in Brooklyn.

Clareese will present her current research project that is series of three
meditations interrogating the performance of identity of citizens of
Western societies by proposing a Post-Identity Dimension, a space of rest
for weary identities to go to rest. These meditations materialise through
using immersive and new media technology augmented by the theoretical lens
of Black Feminist theory, Black geographies, Black studies, Caribbean
Philosophy, Negritude, and Caribbean experiential praxis.

*CHAIR: Olivia McKayla Ross *

Olivia McKayla Ross is a 19-year-old Caribbean American video artist,
programmer, and poet from Queens, New York City. Her work is inspired by
the relationship between electronic video and vanity--by deep fantasy,
Instagram filters, glamour magic, mirrors, and the fantasies and anxieties
of video transmission: immersion, absorption, surveillance, and control.

*PANELISTS: *

*Zaiba Jabbar *

Zaiba Jabbar is an award winning director, independent curator and founder
of HERVISIONS. With over a decade of experience in the film and media
sectors, her curatorial practice is an investigation into how people in the
margins are using technology to create art outside of traditional contexts

*Danielle Braithwaite Shirley *

Danielle Brathwaite-Shirley is an artist working predominantly in digital
media to communicate the experiences of being a Black Trans person. Their
practice focuses on recording the lives of Black Trans people, intertwining
lived experience with fiction to imaginatively retell Trans stories.

*LenaNW*

Lena NW, 27, is a multidisciplinary media artist whose work reflects the
millennial dilemma of being deranged and jaded from internet induced media
oversaturation. Longlisted for the 2020 Lumen Prize, her work explores
internet culture’s intersection of identity, sexuality, ethics, language,
and mental health, merging game development, illustration, animation,
video, music, and performance.

*Sian Fan *

Sian Fan (1991) is a mixed-race interdisciplinary artist, who has exhibited
internationally with venues including Tate Modern, British Council, and the
ICA, as well as producing work with Channel 4, the BBC and Facebook.
Longlisted for the 2020 Lumen Prize, her work combines movement, the body
and technology to explore embodiment, spirituality and human experience in
the digital age.


molly hankwitz - she/her
http://bivoulab.org


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:21 PM Sean Cubitt <sean.cub...@unimelb.edu.au>
wrote:

> The thread - on the way to dissolution - has been fascinating and I've not
> much to add except that the list of topics avoids almost every major
> achievement of the humanities (and therefore the reasons why governments,
> pressure groups etc like to attack them).
>
> Feminism arose in the 1970s not from STEM but from HASS (humanities arts
> and social science). STEM did not propel postcolonial and decolonial
> studies or critical race studies - if anything they lent their support to
> the lie of biological racism. I always presumed that STS science and tech
> studies changed its name from History and Philosophy of Science to broaden
> its field but also to escape its subservient role in med schools ectetera.
> But like critical digital studies it owes little to schools of computing
> (this comment might be out of order but it has in general been at the
> margins where computing meets HASS that the key work has been done).
> Critical disability studies didn't emerge from engineering schools tho it
> should have. HASS have changed the intellectual and ethical landscape of
> the 21st century at least as profoundly as STEM
>
> On the positive side, the scientists have been far better at communicating
> the arcana of quantum theory and DNA than in general we have been in
> communicating what HASS does to the general public (tip of the hat to Nick
> Mirzoeff for his efforts). Feminists and critical race scholars - Ta Nahisi
> Coates  - have done huge things here; Rebecca Solnit out of environmental
> humanities - but no big statements for several decades of what we
> collectively are doing and why.
>
> That is exactly what a major initiative should be doing. Broad is more
> important than deep
>
> seán
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>    1. Re: deep humanities initiative (Ted Byfield)
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> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 13:00:32 -0400
> From: "Ted Byfield" <tedbyfi...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: <nettime> deep humanities initiative
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> I have a few thoughts: the first has to do with these one-off comments
> about "deep," the second has to do with the gender aspect of this thread
> in just five messages long. They're related, in a way.
>
> (1) DEEP
>
> Somewhere in my piles of scribbles I have some notes for an essay on the
> poetics of "deep." tl;dr: no, *do* forget web, pockets, and Europe.
> Those associations are fine, but there are better ways to approach this
> kind of thing than a couple of guys dashing off whatever comes to mind.
>
> One of my favorite mini-methods for just-add-water cultural analysis is
> Google's autocomplete ? say, what it coughs up if you type in "deep
> a", "deep b", "deep c", etc. 26 searches is boring, but its rote,
> mechanical quality forces you to look at what other people are thinking.
> In this case it's pretty funny (part of me wants to say *deeply
> ironic*), because you're staring the problem right in its face: what do
> millions, maybe billions of people mean when they think "deep"?
>
> There are several ~layers of meaning, but I'll just get to a few:
>
> One is older, and has a miscellaneous quality because "deep" is literal:
> "deep pockets," "deep ocean," "deep end," etc. They're not so
> interesting, though "deep sleep" is one of them, and it was probably a
> basis for later, more metaphorical notions of deep."
>
> Then there's another layer where the marketing kick in, and you start to
> see more metaphorical phrases like "deep conditioner" or "deep tissue
> massage." This second layer is less miscellaneous because the marketing
> has a focus, the human body. In this sense, "deep" takes on a new,
> latent meaning through an implied contrast ? not just with a
> traditional antonym like "shallow", I think, but with something more
> like "superficial." It's not so explicit in this context, but this turn
> came with gendering ? I think because commercial representations of
> bodies tended to focus on women first, and conveyed a sort of
> double-bind message: your body is a chronic problem / this product will
> fix or maintain it /  turn your body into a promise. Lather, rinse,
> repeat, as they say.
>
> I'll fast-forward past a bunch of other mutations in the micro-poetics
> of depth, rooted in things like the rise of certain styles of
> audio-production (especially in "industrial" music), "deep ecology"
> (first used in 1973 but only widely adopted in English in the '90s), the
> rise of aerial and satellite surveillance (which promoted a vertical
> perspective that made high-resolution a matter of "depth," and not just
> in the optical sense of depth of field ? see William Burrows's seminal
> book on space-based intelligence, _Deep Black: Space Espionage and
> National Security). But those things would all need essays in their own
> right, some of which have been written.
>
> One sign the poetics of depth was catching on was the glut of movies and
> TV in the '90s: Star Trek ? Deep Space Nine, Deep Cover, Deep Impact,
> Deep Blue Sea, Deep Rising, The Deep, etc, etc.
>
> For me, the key shift was the use of "deep" to describe statecraft or
> the appearance of it. The obvious reference is the "deep state," which
> was first used in Turkey in the '90s, and a decade or so later started
> to become a staple of US political vocabulary ? probably an
> interesting history of how that happened, but one that'll likely never
> be written. But part of the reason it worked is that "deep" had been a
> staple in paranoiac rightist ideas about "deep cover," "sleeper cells,"
> and "Manchurian" this and that ? some of which vaguely referred not
> just to anti-Soviet ideas but also to anti-Chinese kookiness about
> "brainwashing," dating from the Korean War. That background might
> explain why the name of a '72 porn movie was adopted as the pseudonym
> for the Watergate informer "Deep Throat" in the same year.
>
> There were other, more progressive uses, like Pauline Oliveros's phrase
> "deep listening," which was both a pun. IIRC see coined it around '90 or
> so after a recording experiment in some subterranean chamber ? but it
> also referred to a more deliberate but also open focus, which is related
> to emerging ideas about "immersive" experiences ? another implicit
> reference to depth, but one that also tacitly invokes intensifying
> modernist ideas about rising distraction (cf. the 2016 self-help book
> Deep Work about avoiding distraction). I think Oliveros probably was
> tapping into the kinds of thinking that characterized ideas like "deep
> ecology," with their emphasis on forms of connection and engagement that
> eluded conventional and technocratic ways of slicing and dicing the
> world.
>
> Also: Deep Thoughts is the name of the computer in Hitchhiker's Guide to
> the Galaxy, which probably accounts for a huge swath of "deep" names in
> tech, even if the bros don't know it (let alone know it was a joke).
>
> So those are the main clusters of cultural noise that were available or
> in the air when tech bro culture started to tag things as "deep": deep
> web (not to be confused with the dark web), Deep Blue (the chess-playing
> computational system), deep neural networks (DNNs), deep linguistic
> processing (DLP), deep dream (AI-based image generation), deepfakes,
> Deepmind (an AI company), Deep Nostalgia (dumb app that animates old
> photo portraits). These things are pretty different, in that they tap
> into different parts of these histories; but they're all pretty the same
> because they're all "deep," right?
>
> Once the bros got involved, it became obligatory to call everything
> "deep." For example, "deep learning" was a stated goal of ML/AI
> researchers ? it doesn't have anything to do with what we'd
> traditionally associate with deep knowledge, it's just the kind of low
> bar with a high name that tech culture loves (like "artificial
> intelligence"). So you can tack "deep" on to pretty much anything, and a
> huge swath of people will take it seriously. If I started talking about
> "deep papier mache," an alarming number of people would assume I meant
> some serious, more fundamental understanding of the it as a history,
> medium, practice, whatever, but it's just a phrase I made up.
>
> (2) GENDER, SORT OF
>
> When I saw Anya's encouraging remark, in contrast to the more negative
> one-liners, I was like ?, especially because it felt like I'm part of
> the kind of pile-on that's made Nettime such a problematic space.
>
> > I love this if they are really working to impose a structure within
> > the creation of software and the random, unexplored consequences
> > decisions made by most (mainly white men) people creating it.
> > It?s an extremely unfriendly environment to anyone but young white
> > men, as Silicon Valley culture believes the lie that the most money
> > will be made from the idiot zuckerbergs model, when in reality most
> > successful startups are created by people with experience.
> >
> > The Silicon Valley culture, and by necessity the software et al
> > created by it, is extreme capitalism with profit prioritized above all
> > else, and F the humans who haven?t pillaged everyone else and gotten
> > too rich to be tolerated.
>
> Unfortunately, like I said, the initiative looks like it capitulates to
> that kind of culture rather than challenging.
>
> It might make real sense at SJSU as an internal strategy for promoting
> certain forms of knowledge and study, but when a document like that
> escapes that orbit it becomes ridiculous. It can be both things at once.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> On 24 Apr 2021, at 3:10, Geert Lovink wrote:
>
> > And do not forget the term 'deep Europe', one of the many inventions
> > coming from the nettime scene? neither East nor West or
> > continental?
> https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/zsZvCXLKNwFX5xGo4IVhMEX?domain=v2.nl
> <https://v2.nl/events/deep-europe/view>
> > <https://v2.nl/events/deep-europe/view>
> >
> > Geert
> >
> >
> >> On 24 Apr 2021, at 8:36 am, Michael H. Goldhaber
> >> <mich...@goldhaber.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is it more closely related to the ?deep state? or to ?deep
> >> pockets ?? Both?
>
>
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> From: d.gar...@new-tactical-research.co.uk
> To: Geert Lovink <ge...@xs4all.nl>
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> On 2021-04-24 08:10, Geert Lovink wrote:
> > And do not forget the term 'deep Europe', one of the many inventions
> > coming from the nettime scene? neither East nor West or
> > continental?
> https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/zsZvCXLKNwFX5xGo4IVhMEX?domain=v2.nl
> <https://v2.nl/events/deep-europe/view>
>
> We could track contemporary versions of the so called ?depth narrative?
> back to structuralists such as Levi Strause arguing that beneath the
> surface of the social world is a structure or a grammar. As well as
> seeing the antecedence of Marx and Freud who don?t believe that whats
> happening on the surface tell you as much as knowing what is going on
> below in the depths. Geology is the model here for way of knowing about
> how shape of the landscape came to be the way it is by digging below the
> surface.
>
> This depth narrative has never been without its critics later
> structuralists and post-structuralists inverted the story by celebrating
> the surface at the expense of depth. Particularly Barthes who was
> famously uncomfortable with ?meaning?, which he described as heavy,
> sticky declaring that ?I?ve always wanted to be exempt from meaning the
> way one is exempt from military service?. ? As a realist he recognised
> that he couldn't escape it altogether but applies for some kind of
> temporary exemption, a rest from meaning.? From a visual arts standpoint
> I have always seen this tussle as echoing the arrival of Warhol on the
> scene whose slippery serious anti-seriousness effectively disrupted
> Abstract Expressionism?s existentialist claims to psychological depth.
>
>
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