On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Vickram Crishna wrote: > 2009/9/23 Guru गुरु <[email protected]> > > > the 'current system' does not ensure letters are actually sent in this > > manner. > > 1. What this actually amounts to saying, is that the current system has a > lot of 'wrinkles' in it by which open organisations are forced to maintain > physical setups in order to pay expenses that are no longer a necessary > feature of the modern world.
Yes. > > Clearly, a FOSSCOMM CMP must include putting up a stand against any and all > such antediluvian features of the old world. I see absolutely no reason > why, in order to function, FOSSCOMM will (and it will, by extension) need > to set up registered entities in each and every state of the country. Chicken n egg. > What is the issue here? That some amount of specific physical expenditure > is forced on us because we share a point of view that needs to be > communicated with the government. To meet that need, we must be forced to > collect funds, store those funds, finally have a bank account, and create a > physical organisation in order to have that bank account. Recent moves by > the Finance Ministry (wrt the revised IT return forms) also make it more > difficult to account for perfectly valid expenditures, simply because they > do not fall into the FM's cosy little worldview. I am sorry to have to > detail all these steps here, which are obvious to everyone who has dealt > with traditional organisational creation. Against this, afaik, FOSSCOMM has > been working already to firm up its PoV, and fostering its sharing quite > well, without any such formal registration. Agreed but we are switching track here. > Please do take a look at our Constitution (ie the CoI: just like this > list's archives, the actual text of the CoI is not available under a single > link, but it is not difficult to quickly focus on the clauses that are > pertinent to my observation). There is not a single line in it that > maintains that the people of India must mandatorily band themselves into > registered > organisations in order to communicate with the government, yet this is the > de facto result of the simple fact that the government won't [accept or] > respond to digital communications. Agreed again. And things are changing drop by drop or rather sms by sms - atleast in some government bodies - manly related to collecting the loot from the citizen of our country > 2. Notwithstanding anything above, if we are able to continue as is, > without some kind of registered entity, then it should not be difficult to > 'freeze' specific letters sent to particular offices or whatever, listing > the details of despatch, perhaps uploading scanned images of > acknowledgments etc. It should not be difficult to set up a 'register form' > that can capture such info. The core format will, in the meantime, continue > to be available for reuse and improvement, if that becomes necessary. The idea was and is to be a formal body which will take up the CMP /agenda / whatever for starters in the appropriate "clubs". One reason is that other formal bodies (companies, ngos, government bodies etc) would have to have membership so that they can dedicate resources to such activities. Further there is no proposed restriction on individuals being members. -- Rgds JTD _______________________________________________ network mailing list [email protected] http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in
