On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 13:22, Vickram Crishna <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sanjeev
>
> While Narendra's (and followup mails in this thread) may not be excellently
> drafted from a legal or even a social perspective, the sentiment was clear,
> and all discussions that nitpick on the shortcomings in wording and avoid
> focusing on the sentiment itself are to my mind argumentative and not
> helpful. I have no doubt that Dr Ambedkar found exactly the same problem
> when he steered the Constitution, and in my conversations with Vic Hayes, he
> certainly faced exactly the same challenges when steering the drafting of
> the WiFi standard (now a family of standards).
>

No comments on this, sir.


>
> Why should we (people who care about FOSS usage) care about openness in
> government? Lincoln said it best, I think, while reducing the discussion on
> democratic governance to a few hundred words: "a government by the people,
> of the people and for the people". Our government has not learned this truth
> (nor has the US government, but it is miles ahead of us, let us be frank).
> In today's news, I see that Anna Hazare has demanded the proceedings of the
> drafting committee be videorecorded: this technology was not meaningfully
> usable (although available, in a sense) during the drafting of the
> Constitution, but it certainly is today. Mr Hazare may not be very uptodate
> on tech matters, or else I have no doubt he would endorse Narendra's
> sentiment: that all aspects relating to the Bill be conducted in an open,
> transparent and accessible manner. Any fears about the constitution of a
> drafting committee in which nobody is accountable (and only a handful have
> been any elected in any representative capacity, none for this post) will be
> minimised if not entirely laid to rest by such an action.
>

Exactly my view.  So we should say "transparent and open", not "allow 16mm
film"; the second phrasing may lose relevance.


>
> 1. The website must be compatible with internationally accepted standards
> for openness and accessibility, as endorsed from time to time for use, and
> avoid the use of proprietary formats that force users into purchasing or
> accepting restrictive proprietary conditions.
>

Yes,  Clear.


>
> 2. Transaction methods for payments made under the provisions of this Bill
> must allow for the widest variety of methods legally enforceable for
> commercial transactions available and in use from time to time, including
> both physical and virtual transfers. The Rules under this Act must focus on
> enabling the highest degree of convenience for persons wishing to take
> advantage of the provisions of this  Act, and draft Rules must be
> transparently available for discussion concurrent with the drafting of the
> Bill, in order to ensure its rapid applicability once it passes into law.
>

Clear, as well.

I think we are in accord now.  I was objecting to listing, in an Act that
will last some time, today's "open" choices.


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Sanjeev Gupta
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