On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Vivek Khurana <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Narendra Sisodiya
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, that is exactly I am saying,,, I am saying that If GOD would have
> > released WATER to humanity/world on Non-Commercial Terms and condition
> then
> > business PACKAGED water would be impossible.
> > Please re-read my comments and what Raj,JTD and others are saying.
> > You are focusing on business and capitalist requirement which is valid
> and
> > there exist a beautiful licence exist which is called "All Right
> > Reserved"...
> > most of the member is discussion are agree that NC is useless... CC-By OR
> > CC-By-SA Or any similar licence which has less number of lines in the
> legal
> > code.
> >
>
>  Just by couple of guys arguing NC is useless it doesnt become
> useless.


infact a good number of guys on the CC community also "STRONGLY dislike" NC.
including RMS
http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/copyfight/rms-on-creative-commons.htmland
ME :-)



> In simplest terms, NC means, If you are free we are free, if
> you are commercial we are commercial. This is well known practice in
> FREE software world where several software are released under dual
> license, requiring one to buy license for commercial use. So why you
> guys have an allergy with NC clause?
>  Also, opinions do not form licenses and laws. Instead of wasting time
> by arguing on this list repeatedly, why you guys dont consult a lawyer
> and get a clarification on the distribution clause of NC licenses.



Precisely you said the IMP hurdle on NC. one has consult to lawyer.
See CC-World is (AFAIK) designed by lawyers. It is a Lawyer's viewpoint. It
is not designed by the person who create content.
collect some person who create video tutorials and always want to share the
contents. Ask them to write the licence of distribution. They will surely
write 1 Para licence for which you do not need lawyer !!




> The
> distribution clause makes it clear that one is allowed to sale or
> transfer ownership of the collection containing the content in
> unmodified form.
>
> >>
> >> > See Video of NPTEL !! Gods knows their licences ! they charges heavy !
> >> > Imagine they licence it under CC-By, I/Somebody will jump into selling
> >> > those
> >> > Videos. I can sell 500 GB video preloaded harddisk or just 400GB full
> >> > video
> >> > repo to many many colleges and students. student are ready to buy them
> >> > because they connot download it.
> >>
> >>  Ignorance is rarely a bliss... See here
> >> http://nptel.iitm.ac.in/availability.php (Individual's section)
> >>
> >
> > page tells - Free & Easy Downloads , I was asking for licence
>
>  I did not reply to license clause but I replied to your query on how
> students can get videos when they cant download it. As for the
> license, IIT's have always maintained the content is free for academic
> (not just educational) use.
>
>
video are created out of public money for public cause, every TOM DIC and
HARRY deserved to get it (irrespective of whether he is a individual or from
Academia or a business-man)


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differently.
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