Hi Vickram, I think the issue and central message of Sunde is bit more deeper (I am not assuming that you didnt get it). The fight for freedom in computing or knowledge is (and can only be) part of a war against inhumane system of Capitalism.
Importance of Sunde's msg comes from the fact that many in this fight for freedom in computing and knowledge saw it separately from large war. That mistake must be corrected as we move on. (Where is idea of Freedom in the 'FOSS Movement' we have now ?) We all may have disagreement about the 'C' word. I personally had bitter wars with its official proponents. But we can only wish way Marx and the 'C' word. World will have to look back at it, rediscover it, redefine it -- if it is for a better world for many/or to avert the crisis humanity is facing. Brilliance and truthfulness of words of Marx keep it shining(despite its misuse). Hence I believe we will hear more 'C' word and more 'F' word. A masculine version of 'C' had run its course. May be a feminine one has got a chance(Rosa Luxemburg /Jose Mujica). And now on your discussion on why technology is not used for human emancipation rather than subjugation, i thought this is a very relevant discussion https://hbr.org/2015/12/is-openai-solving-the-wrong-problem (Were we also trying to solve a wrong problem ?) On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 02:59 +0000, Vickram Crishna wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 7:58 am Arun M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/pirate-bay-founder-peter-sunde-i-have-given-up > > > > > Expectedly, Sunde brings insight. > > Personally, I wish he had not used the word communism. It is a sponge > of a word, oozing confusion over mature discussions, and history has > made it so. > > I always thought the forms of communism that have brought the word > into disrepute, practised in many countries, could not be expected to > achieve meaningful results without modern technology, primarily > communication technologies. But as humans, we are more suspicious of > technology than we are of social systems. > > Technology can be empowering. But we are using it to empower non-human > entities over human rights, which seems illogical, but then, so does > history. Like Sunde, I too am getting older, and disheartened by the > increasingly cavalier use of technology to shatter human rights. He > thinks this happens due to greed, but that seems to be a human > characteristic. > > The point is, this is not any technology, this is information > technology. There may be an apocalyptic period ahead, but somewhat > possible, instead of wanton destruction, this apocalypse will be > constructive, because the inevitable accompaniment of IT used for > oppression is that people can find ways to learn. > > Will they? Or will the access to information be so constricted that > such ways will always remain the province of a few discontented people > ('paranoid conspiracy theorists', is what Sunde says), presumably > including a handful on this list. > > Vickram > > > _______________________________________________ > network mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in > > > > > _______________________________________________ > network mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in _______________________________________________ network mailing list [email protected] http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in
