David's got a valid point though: determinism and risk management for
2.0 release. And also about the schizoid nature of httpd going for
release, stuff going in and stuff testing all at once.
Maybe it's time to start actually putting things on the list for 2.1,
like rethinking the scoreboard implementation or fully instrumenting the
server. I mean, not everything's got time to make it into 2.0, so IMO we
should start consciously slating big stuff for 2.1-5 timeframe.
Harry's right about official httpd users needing to run two test cycles
suckage (and some will argue that's not our problem). They'll have to
run a test cycle at each release, though.
Perhaps it will help everyone if we try to finalize the feature list for
2.0 soon, and get started on the 2.1-5 feature lists. You all know we're
gonna do that many, possibly on the first release. 8^)
And I know that multiprotocol support has been on the list for 2.0 for a
little while now. We still have to talk about removing the proxy: hack.
Chuck
On Tuesday, April 17, 2001, at 01:10 PM, Harrie Hazewinkel wrote:
> David Reid wrote:
>>
>> Have we agreed that the multi-protocol stuff that was outlined (and
>> this
>> patch is based on) is the correct way to go? I'm not convinced that
>> it is.
>> I REALLY dislike the fact that we appear to be pulling in 2 directions
>> at
>> the moment.
>>
>> One group is trying to get 2.0 bug fixed and ready for release, the
>> other
>> trying to destabilize it and insert new potential for bugs and
>> holes!! If
>> the multi-protocol stuff is a *MUST* have for a 2.0 release then we
>> should
>> have some real discussions and stop worrying about rolling "beta's".
>>
>> If it's not a must have then perhaps we should stop worrying about
>> this and
>> make it an issue for 2.1? Sorry to be blunt.
>
> David, I know some people (ISPs) who do around 6 months of
> installation testing before they make somethings operational.
> These are mostly done for core network features, but also
> for every service they use.
>
> I don't think they would mind to wait a month if they get
> what they want in 2.0. The mind earlier doing the operational
> testing twice.
>
> Harrie
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Chuck Murcko
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