[root@diggy jason]# copy-audio-cd
bash: copy-audio-cd: command not found
[root@diggy jason]#
[root@diggy jason]# burn-audio-cd
bash: burn-audio-cd: command not found
[root@diggy jason]#

???


Damian Gatabria wrote:
On Sunday 05 January 2003 21:39, Jason Greenwood wrote:
  
As for copying CD's, I agree, you COULD use the command line but why
would you?? There are many GUI based CD ripping/burning/copying
    

Well, when my sister wanted to learn how to copy an audio CD,
and i started thinking about the (several) ways to do it..

After some thought, i threw away the little "manual" i was writing on a 
piece of paper for her, and told her "open up the xterm and type
"copy-audio-cd"... she thought it was easy, i did not need to explain
anything else to her, so we were both happy. :o)



  
utilities out there. When trying to convert Windows users to Linux I
ALWAYS try and use GUI apps., otherwise Windows users tend to think of
Linux as a geek only OS, which is totally wrong. Besides, I find Windoze
    

Of course, i would never tie them up to the CLI, but when the time
comes to burn a CD, nothing beats "burn-audio-cd" ;oPPP

---WARNING, LONG OT, UN-CALLED FOR RANT ---

Anyway, none in my family understand exactly what is the difference
between Linux and Windows (they do not have a clear idea of
what an OS is) and rather than "geek" they tend to think 
(and i've heard them say so once or twice) :

"Damian's computer is 'experts-only'."

And there are times when they get fed up with the 
"Works almost like windows, but a little different" 
--And i'm not talking about KDE, they have no probs with
it, it's the programs themselves, they do not feel exactly
 at home with them -- and end up falling back to 
the dissapointing "never mind, i'll do it at the office tomorrow."

My personal opinion on this is that they do not care about
typing "burn-audio-cd" (she was relieved it was that easy),
but they do care about stuff being done fast and simple. 

OpenOffice is a prime example.

When my father launched OO because he needed to edit a 
spreadsheet, he said "It's almost a copy of excell!". I liked that 
comment because i hoped for him to get used to it quickly. But then, 
he wanted to do this and that and the other thing i do at the office
and blah blah .. and he quickly lost his patience, because it's
"almost the same, but instead of clicking here, i had to go there,
and how was i supposed to know?" And that led him to take
four or five times the amount of time to accomplish the same tasks.

One might argue about the re-learning being a one-time-only 
kind of thing, but after many discussions with my parents relating
"why is my computer so hard to use" i was drawn to a very
bitter conclusion:

Most users DO NOT know what an OS is, they do not WANT
to know (quote from my father: "If I want to open the door, i should
not be forced to know about the lock's inner workings") and they learn 
how to do the stuff they need to do, and repeat it when they need it
without even  thinking about it. Truly, they "know" nothing about the PC.
they just use it the way they learnt to, and if you change them that,
they are utterly lost.

If they have to re-learn how to accomplish a task, then it doesn't
matter if the program they have to use is a MS-look-alike. 
To them it's almost like learning from scratch. And they do not
want to bother.


As you can see, i'm very interested in this stuff and my family is
the "guinnea pig". (is that spelled correctly?) 




  
users REQUIRE eye candy to find an OS usefull. ;)
    

My computer is FAR prettier than Windows, rest assured :o)

Besides, everyone that uses this computers find Mandrake's
menu layout very logical and simple, they find the apps they 
need to use without problems, web browsers, IM and e-mail 
programs work just like in Windows so no problem there....

I would say Linux is almost ready for the Desktop.

And, more than eye candy, it's ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED
that they feel they do not need to give it a lot of thought
about how to achieve their PC-related tasks.

In my opinion, the easiest way for Linux growth is
to get people to use it when they are yet to learn anything
else. 


  
Regards,

Jason
    

Bye.

Damian

  

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