Now, now

you seem unable to keep it to yourself... Well then

> He's probably on his way out of the thread, so I'll try to paraphrase
> what he was saying; subject to his correction.  Basically he's upset
> because Australian law forces outlawed the law abiding people in AU from
> being able to own firearms, while the criminals are still able to bring
> them into the country (which they were always able to do anyway since
> they *don't* and never did abide by the law).
>
> Therefore now the honest people are disarmed and the criminals are
> running around with weapons.  Which means that the honest people cannot
> defend themselves.  

> Therefore there has been an increase in the crime
> rate; not just there but in any country that implements this practice,
> which happens to be a fine example of socialistic ideology.

You got me interested, to my humble knowledge USA has some 12'000 gun-related 
deaths per year whereas all other countries have <1000 regardless of their 
size. _Especially_ the more 'socialistic' countries (Germany has some 
~380/year AFAIK). 

Please point me to some source for your figures, I would especially be 
interested in some 'socialistic' countries like sweden and finland compared 
to some where school-children can buy guns (probably only USA).

> The best book you can read on the subject is the following:
>
> The Bias Against Guns: Why Almost Everything You've Heard About Gun
> Control Is Wrong by John R., Jr. Lott
>
> ISBN: 0895261146
>
> Which is a book that examines hard statistics from countries that have
> taken weapons out of the hands of the law abiding citizens.  You can
> pick it up on Amazon used for about 18 bucks.
>
> --LX

Well then what does it say about Finland/Sweden/Germany compared to USA? 
Anything interesting?

b.

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