On Thursday 10 July 2003 03:24, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Wednesday 09 July 2003 10:30 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > <snip> > > > But to take your idea of right-wing-inconsistency as why they > > use a french distribution to the extreme: Aren't right-wingers > > supposed to be using M$ and support the true capitalistic way > > instead of some Linux-community-communistic ideal of everyones > > for everybody? > > </snip> > > I think this thread is way off-topic. Nevertheless, let me > try to get it back on trail : > > 1. Guns, knives, axes or nuclear bombs don't commit crimes. > People do. > > 2. In the US anyone can own a firearm legally (as far as I > understand) and the crime rate is considerable.
Interesting... > 3. In the Scandinavian countries (where I live) it's illegal > for ordinary citizens to own firearms. According to http://www.uncjin.org/Documents/6comm/4e.pdf (United Nations International Study on Firearm Regulation) Swedish and Finnish citizens are allowed to have guns. (the study is from 1997) And they use their right extensively. They are among those countries with the most guns. Maybe that is why i.e. the finnish are in the order of gun related deaths: Brazil > (big gap) > Jamaica > USA > (big gap) Estonia > Finland not all that far behind. (only 1/3 of USAs but still 4x that of Germany, Sweden though is relatively peaceful) But in fact the finnish have more (registered) weapons than even the USA! Vietnam and Malaysia do not allow long and handguns at all. Japan only doesn't allow handgun at all, but all are restricted. They have the least gun-related death rates. > But nobody cares, > because we don't care about the law anymore. Almost every > man has a firearm of some sort,but doesn't maintain it > properly (we are lazy). The crime rate is considerable and > rising. Interesting. I suppose that and the comment of american crime rate is just your personal impressions? > 4. In Switzerland every man is obliged to have a > military-style firearm at arm's length. The crime rate is > almost nil. Only about 15% of the population are in the army. Only those are obliged. The guns must be kept separate from ammunition and unloaded, it's not of much use against intruders in your home. It is an assault rifle (long gun) and therefore is not and must not be carried around when you go out and therefore helps against no other crimes than home intrusions, to which we have established that it does not help either. So the crime rate has nothing to do with these guns. Btw. I live in switzerland. b.
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