On Saturday 15 Nov 2003 1:48 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
SNIP
>
> In went the Powerpack CD's of 9.2. Smooth as a greased lightning.
> Nice desktop, nice everything - at first glance. Then I wanted to
> demonstrate the "update" process. Installed (successfully) about 50
> packages.
>
> But, alas : all menus broken. No functioning icons. I thought it was
> a KDE issue only, so I whacked .kde and started over. To no avail.
> Then tried Gnome : same miserable result.
>
> We spent the evening (OK, we had a decent supply of beers)
> re-installing 9.2, updating, editing, update-menus, googling and
> one thing and another.
>
> We concluded, that until this issue is solved and published in the
> "errata" page, it's best to avoid any updating at all. Furthermore,
> we concluded : don't use "Menu Editor". Leave everything as it is.
>
> And I have been on this list since 7.0. What do you think "Joe
> Sixpack" will do ? - He never heard of a "newbie list" , let alone
> an "expert list".  He'll carry on, and after a gazillion installs
> and "updates" he'll revert to the dark side. Claiming Mandrake
> completely unusable.
>
> I'll take bets on this.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.
Are you saying that you still do not have menus after 'update-menus -v' Kaj?

If so then you probably have the 'other' menu problem. When you run 
'update-menus -v' do you see some text about a syntax error in a line about 
fluxbox? If so edit /etc/menu/menudrakeentry  find the line causing the 
problem. I think it is this one

?package(menu): needs="fluxbox" icon="applications_section.png" 
section="Fluxbox/Styles/" title="" charset="utf8"

and insert some text (any text) between the quotes after 'title='
Then run update-menus again

I do not disagree with your conclusion about the reaction of Joe Sixpack. Now 
that the download edition is published I am also expecting some very 
unfavourable reviews of 9.2 As someone who has spent over 20 years looking 
for bugs in new products for the comms industry I am always amazed at how 
MandrakeSoft rush to declare a release 'final' after just one or 2 days 
without anyone reporting a showstopping bug.
If 9.2 turns some newbies off Linux it will be a pity. Once you correct the 
initial bugs it actually works quite nicely.  (Supermount is great now :-)

derek

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