Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short time I've been away. There's a whole bunch of great people on this list, and then there's Joe Hill. There's a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, and then there's Joe Hill. There a LOT of people who know something about email and how it works, and then there's Joe Hill.
Are we seeing a pattern here? So, to make this easy on Joe, who has obviously become the List Nazi of the day, I will explain. Istop uses 2 sets of email accounts. the usual one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for a lot of users, it's probably just great. However, if you attempt to send an email to someone on a domain that has been blacklisted, or whose account, or the Class A or Class B subnet they belong to has a reputation for sending SPAM, Istop has another bunch of email accounts. These other accounts are "Aliases" ( as in not real, Joe ) and use an aliased domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] This allows users to set a Reply-To address which will by pass the Anti-Spam system at Istop. Since I have about 250 clients who rely on me to stay in contact with them, this was a priority for me, at least until my DNS server settings were updated with the new static IP address that I rely on for business. So whether or not you like it, that's the way it had to be Joe. No offense to anyone else on the list, but my responsibility to my clients comes first, and so does making a living. If you can't stand it Joe, Too Bad. You seem to have about as much understanding and compassion as the stuff I leave in the toilet bowl. So, you managed to contact someone who doesn't have my problem? Yippee for them Joe! But ask yourself a question. Is this person located in Toronto or Ottawa? Istop uses two completely different set of servers for the two cities. Since I'm in Montreal, my account is on the Ottawa servers. Could be that there's a different set up in the two cities, or your friend hasn't sent emails to anyone inside a blacklist zone. Hopefully, some of this will sink in Joe. But I'm done being patient with you. I'll be in Toronto in a few weeks for some business, and I'd be tickled pink to run into you in a dark alley ! Enough of your whining and complaining! Either fish or cut bait, OK? Let's cut to the chase and end this bullshit you seem to like to propogate. I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the email I received from Istop so I could forward it to you and shove it down your throat. In case the handle didn't give it away, I do networks. I've done networks. Hundreds of them. I know what's what, and I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you do when it comes to this kind of situation. When an email server responds to me and tells me what I can't do and what workarounds there are, I tend to believe it. When the ISP confirms it, I tend to go along and cooperate. But you'll notice that this was not a permanent condition, as I had mentioned in my email, and that it was short term at the worst. So, while I understand that it's a nuisance, and while I've never done it before in all the years I've belonged to this list ( under one handle or another ), and while I certainly appreciate the reasons why it could be annoying to the list members, I also notice that, once agin, it's only Joe Hill who makes an issue, and tries to get the last word in. Give it a rest man. Joe - you're obviously a control freak. Your domain name says it all. "www.orderinchaos.org" But try to learn the difference between the things you can control, and the things you can't. One the day that someone puts you in charge of the Mandrake email servers ( and I honestly can't see that happening ! ), you can do whatever you want. Until then "Give It A Rest". I strongly suggest you double the dosage on the Valium or Quaaludes or whatever you're on, but mellow out OK? I apologise to all the other list members for my rant, but I've had enough of this asshole coming across like he's "Holier Than Thou" and convinced he's got to prove everyone else wrong no matter what! Enough ! Get a life, get a wife, get a dog, but get one soon! I was hoping that things would improve while I was away. I see they haven't ! Is it any wonder why Linux isn't as popular as it should be? Lanman *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 12/6/2003 at 4:56 PM JoeHill wrote: >and then when someone says they "can't" post in anything but HTML, or >"can't" >set their mailer to wrap under 80 columns, with some half-baked excuse, >we'll >just forget about the guidelines we're all supposed to follow, and make >exceptions for everybody. > >ummmm, nope. > >the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one. > >and in this case, there is no "need". > >-- >JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 >Registered Linux user #282046 >Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
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