On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 00:10, Lanman wrote:
> On 12/6/2003 at 11:54 PM KS wrote:
> 
> >Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to
> subject
> >myself to a public stoning.
> >I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more
> >friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has started to turn
> me
> >off with their actions before I  was willing to get  a "CLUB" 
> >membership,...too bad. :-(
> >
> >Lanman said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:41 PM:
> >
> > >Another Canadian on the list eh? Welcome to the fray! Of course,
> if
> > >you've been here a long time
> > >already please disregard this emai. But still nice to see
> another
> > >Canuck on board !
> > >
> > >Lanman
> 
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> Actually, you get used to it after a while. Helps to clear up the
> bad blood, and you get to practice
> your dodging techniques ! Grin ! As for Mandrake, I know for a fact
> that they've been going through a 
> lot of changes in recent years, so try to be patient. They've got
> to get their house in order before they
> can improve on customer relations. Not a perfect solution, but
> they're trying.
> 
> Lanman
> 


I agree, Lanman.  I have had problems with the decisions that were made
with rpmdrake, but I've put those differences aside in view of the whole
distro.  I think Mandrake is the best desktop solution available for
Linux.  What's more, Red Hat seems to be sliding out of the desktop
picture, wether voluntarily or involuntarily.  This gives Mandrake quite
a breather for more business; an unusual lucky break.  It's about time;
Mandrake has needed some kind of lucky break for some time now.  I view
the events at Red Hat as a prime opportunity for Mandrake to grab
customers and new Club members.

The problem with Red Hat historically is that they have not been willing
to go in the direction of very innovative new business solutions that
*embrace* the needs of the desktop users rather than ignore them. Like
the Mandrake Club idea by Deno, for instance.  That's why I think there
has been a loss of market share from Red Hat to Mandrake.  MDK employees
and developers are responsive and concerned about their users; and it
shows.

Where Mandrake will possibly go wrong is if they continue to make
unilateral elitist decisions concerning their GUI *without* consulting
or polling Mandrake club members beforehand.  Generally speaking,
however, Mandrake is the most user inclusive distribution available
today.  There is no distro that keeps up with current trends, user
needs, or user comments and requests like MDK; they have no peer in this
regard.  Take a look at SUSE linux, for instance.  You cannot even get
an ISO download of that distro for free, in order to try it out.  At
least I could not, from the SUSE website.

So before anyone contemplates a move to something else, they should take
a hard look at everything else.  From what I see, Mandrake has no peers.

LX
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