Welcome back Lanman! And a hearty Merry Christmas to you! So good to see you back on the lists. I do a scan from time to time to see what's going on, even if RL keeps me away alot here recently. This is one of those times. :)
Your wit and humor is irreplaceable and always entertaining. Glad to see you here and sorry to see that some list Nazi guards have left the concentration camps to cause difficulties. I understand exactly what you are saying, so no prob, don't sweat it. Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth shut for a short time, only by way of extreme duress. Don't expect that trend to continue, especially in light of current events on this thread. But, it's Christmas time, and Lanman is back. That means it's a great day! I can't think of a better list Christmas present. Or a funnier one. ;) On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 19:21, Lanman wrote: > Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short > time I've been away. > There's a whole bunch of great people on this list, and then there's > Joe Hill. > There's a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, and > then there's Joe Hill. > There a LOT of people who know something about email and how it works, > and then there's Joe Hill. > > Are we seeing a pattern here? > > So, to make this easy on Joe, who has obviously become the List Nazi > of the day, I will explain. > > Istop uses 2 sets of email accounts. the usual one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and for a lot of users, it's > probably just great. However, if you attempt to send an email to > someone on a domain that has been > blacklisted, or whose account, or the Class A or Class B subnet they > belong to has a reputation for > sending SPAM, Istop has another bunch of email accounts. > > These other accounts are "Aliases" ( as in not real, Joe ) and use an > aliased domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This allows users to set a Reply-To address which will by pass the > Anti-Spam system at Istop. > > Since I have about 250 clients who rely on me to stay in contact with > them, this was a priority for me, at > least until my DNS server settings were updated with the new static IP > address that I rely on for business. > > So whether or not you like it, that's the way it had to be Joe. No > offense to anyone else on the list, but my > responsibility to my clients comes first, and so does making a living. > If you can't stand it Joe, Too Bad. > > You seem to have about as much understanding and compassion as the > stuff I leave in the toilet bowl. > > So, you managed to contact someone who doesn't have my problem? Yippee > for them Joe! > > But ask yourself a question. Is this person located in Toronto or > Ottawa? Istop uses two completely > different set of servers for the two cities. Since I'm in Montreal, my > account is on the Ottawa servers. > Could be that there's a different set up in the two cities, or your > friend hasn't sent emails to anyone inside > a blacklist zone. > > Hopefully, some of this will sink in Joe. But I'm done being patient > with you. I'll be in Toronto in a few weeks for > some business, and I'd be tickled pink to run into you in a dark alley > ! Enough of your whining and complaining! > Either fish or cut bait, OK? Let's cut to the chase and end this > bullshit you seem to like to propogate. > > I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd > better be ready to dance BITCH! For your > sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once > again you made a bad choice. I don't > sit around the house dreaming this shit up. But I wish I had kept the > email I received from Istop so I could forward > it to you and shove it down your throat. > > In case the handle didn't give it away, I do networks. I've done > networks. Hundreds of them. I know what's what, > and I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you do when it comes to > this kind of situation. When an email server > responds to me and tells me what I can't do and what workarounds there > are, I tend to believe it. When the ISP > confirms it, I tend to go along and cooperate. > > But you'll notice that this was not a permanent condition, as I had > mentioned in my email, and that it was short > term at the worst. So, while I understand that it's a nuisance, and > while I've never done it before in all the years > I've belonged to this list ( under one handle or another ), and while > I certainly appreciate the reasons why it > could be annoying to the list members, I also notice that, once agin, > it's only Joe Hill who makes an issue, and tries > to get the last word in. Give it a rest man. > > Joe - you're obviously a control freak. Your domain name says it all. > "www.orderinchaos.org" > > But try to learn the difference between the things you can control, > and the things you can't. One the day that > someone puts you in charge of the Mandrake email servers ( and I > honestly can't see that happening ! ), you > can do whatever you want. Until then "Give It A Rest". I strongly > suggest you double the dosage on the > Valium or Quaaludes or whatever you're on, but mellow out OK? > > I apologise to all the other list members for my rant, but I've had > enough of this asshole coming across like he's > "Holier Than Thou" and convinced he's got to prove everyone else wrong > no matter what! Enough ! Get a life, > get a wife, get a dog, but get one soon! > > I was hoping that things would improve while I was away. I see they > haven't ! Is it any wonder why Linux isn't as > popular as it should be? > > Lanman > LX -- ����������������������������������������������� Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk "Filter That, Bitch!" --Lanman, MDK Newbie List ������������������������������������������������
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