On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:53:06, Ray Hogaboom wrote: >On Wed February 18 2004 2:22 pm, deedee wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:14:47, Ray Hogaboom wrote: >> >I am a long time MS-Windows user but new to Linux. I have not >> > been able to find any Application that will run in under >> > Mandrake Linux 9.2 that will replace the my 2 most important >> > MS-Window apps. >> snip > >Yes I have checked the apps database AuctionTamer or DesignCAD are >not in there. It looks like wine people spend most time working on >widows apps that can be replaced by Linux App or playing games.
Wine developers spend their time on what Linux users have asked them to spend their time on. Remember, this is mostly done by volunteers. Like you, many people have a favorite application that they can't do without and for which they've not found a satisfactory Linux substitute for whatever reason it wasn't satisfactory to them. If you have an application that you can't live without and it won't work under wine, you may be able to interest a developer in getting it to work. I was able to do so with one legacy application that I was very anxious to continue using. Try joining the wine mailing list at http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users Wine developers hang out there. Also, you may find people there who have gotten the two applications you want to use to work under wine. >> snip >> >My Problem this is the message I get >> > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ray]$ wine -v >> >wine client error:2b: version mismatch 118/131. >> >Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly, >> >or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH. >> >Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running? >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ray]$ >> > >> >How do I fix this? > >I was able to fix this problem by typing ps -A in the terminal and >then kill all wine apps that where running. the I typed wine -v it >returned the version # as it should have. The when I tried to run >setup for DesignCAD I now have other errors about not have wine >installed right. Once you have installed wine from a precompiled binary, you may still have problems getting DesignCAD to work. But at that point, the likelihood is that your wine will be installed correctly, so you won't have to worry about that part of the equation. >> CVS versions are really patches on older versions. Since you >> don't have an older version on (and it should be an older version >> that you installed from source code), the package you installed >> was not able to upgrade anything. >> >> You need to remove it and install wine either from source code if >> you wish to continue with cvs versions in the future or install a >> precompiled binary package for ML. >> snip >Again thank for your help and the lesson about CVS versions are >really patches on older versions. > snip >Please tell me why I should keep pulling my hair out and banging my >head against the wall to get Linux to work for me!! > > Is Linux Better That MS-Windows? > >It sure seams to be a lot more trouble to me. For the majority of people, installing Linux from a distribution like Mandrake, SuSE, or Knoppix is really no more problematic than installing ms win. In fact, I personally found it to be a lot easier and faster than installing any ms win release. This was primarily because I didn't have to also install a bunch of drivers to get my components and peripherals to work correctly as I had to under ms win. I personally know quite a few people using Linux who have never been on a mailing list or needed to ask a question about how to get something to work. This is includes people who are rank newbies with regard to computers. I also know a lot of folks who use ms win systems, and every single one of them has experienced some problem or the other with ms win. The only time I had problems with Linux was when I went in (without knowing what I was doing) and "fixed" things. Almost in every instance, if I had understood what the issue was, I would have seen that it was fine at installation, but only needed a simple adjustment. An example was with the sound. I didn't realize that sound defaulted to muted. To get it, all I needed to do was turn the volume up. Unfortunately, I didn't go through the troubleshooting provided by Mandrake first and discover that. If I had, I could have saved myself a lot of frustration. This isn't to say that having problems with Linux systems is unusual. But then, having problems with ms win systems is not unusual either. MS certified manufacturers deliberately disable components in computers as well as install components that are meant to only work when a release of ms win is installed on the machine. Most preassembled computers, as well as preassembled components (like motherboards), are produced by MS certified manufacturers. This is part of the contract they sign with MS. An example is the winmodem. Not only do most computers come with a winmodem preinstalled, but it is hardwired in so that you can't remove it. This is deliberate to make it as hard as possible for you to use anything but ms win on your equipment. It is amazing to me how well Linux developers have met the obstacles put in the path of folks who want or need an alternative to ms win on an IBM PC compatible system. I found ms win from my all of my experiences with its various releases to be much too limited for my uses. There is very little flexibility if what you need is something it hasn't been set up to do (or MS doesn't want you to do). If you need advanced Linux stuff to work on your systems, like wine, dosemu, extremely new components, or components that are not used by a lot of folks, you are likely to have to work at getting those things to work correctly under Linux. That's the price of freedom to choose as long as MS gets to dictate what gets installed in your computer. OTOH, if ms win systems are doing exactly what you need and want, then changing to another system just to have another system may be more trouble than it's worth. This is especially true if you turn out to be one of the ones who has problems with Linux. deedee -- Registered Linux User #327485 Visit "WordStar & GNU/Linux" http://www.wordstar2.com Also, see the WordStar Users Group http://www.wordstar2.com/cbabbage/wordstar ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10
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