agreed. I got fed up with my linux installation and blew the whole damn
thing away and installed win2k. I started at 10:40pm, it's now 11:05pm.
Default install, i got sound (good sound -all the time, right out of the
box), good screen resolution, detection of EVERYTHING, networking configured
to include email and a basic web server, pretty much everything with very
few questions. (Hah, and I didn't have to write anyone for help.) I'll be
tweaking things over the next few days to get everything just how I like it.
But by God, I will not have to read one outdated HOWTO, and no instructions
that say inane crap like (that usually works on this distro, but with this
other distro, you're on your own and you'll have to run
make-compile.logrootlilo.)   ;)

Oh, I'll put linux back on. I chose mandrake for ease of use and because
some very good friends (who build very large, and very complex linux servers
for a living) told me it was the best place to start learning linux. And...
I agree completely. It IS a lot of fun for "playing with" (by playing I mean
learning, experimenting, etc).

I guess the car analogy is the best. I'd like to have a high perf sports car
in the garage. I wouldn't mind it being more maintenance hungry for all the
fun I have with it. But I'd also like to have a perfectly good, very
practical car that goes 100k miles between tune ups. Maybe a car made by a
company that holds a so-called monopoly over all the other car makers, but a
good car none-the-less. And I wouldn't mind all my vette friends coming over
and bad mouthing my other car, telling me that I wasn't a "real" driver,
because I drove a.. oh, let's call it a billymobile. I suppose I could get
along with these real drivers and still get along with my billy-bound
friends.

We'll see if that can happen. My Vette friends are pretty insistent.
flame off guys, it's just my opinion ;)

Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 10:56 PM
Subject: RE: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux


> That would be neat, a little question at the beginning of
> the installer that says something like-----
>
> [] I don't want all that techno stuff right now
>
> OR-----
>
> [] I'm a technician dangbustit, gimme a shell!!
>
> and the person could click on what they wanted,
> and it would proceed as such, more
> choices could be made however that was just an example
> of how people could have a choice when using Linux
> of any version, more choice to have
> the tech stuff or the easy stuff with
> option to train along the way, and eventually
> work their way into technician status
> if they so desired it.
>
> Hmmmmmmmm---
>
> On Mon, 04 Dec 2000, Rick Commo wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Grubb
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:02 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
> >
> > I can understand what you are saying here, that the face of Linux will
> > change and it will no longer be recognised as the free OS it is now. I
> > disagree as I don't understand how simplifying the installation and use
of
> > Linux for basic home users will dramatically alter the foundations of
the
> > Linux OS.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Dave,
> >
> > I agree with you completely.  The proper attitude is that making Linux
> > extremely easy will not (should not!!) SUBTRACT from what is here today!
If
> > you enjoy config files and mucking around with parameters - that will
all
> > still be there.  If you enjoyed CLI work with the shell of your choice -
> > that will still be there.  But for the majority of people who are not
> > interested in the "guts" the ease-of-use would be there.  Add the
"layman
> > apps" that the non-enthusiast might be interested in and suddenly Linux
> > could start to be a real alternative in the consumer market.  That would
> > help the consumer and Linux.
> >
>


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