On Monday 29 October 2001 08:26 am, you wrote:
> Microsoft has backed off now, because of attention and articles.
> (I may make a note of that in the warning.)
>
> It will be back when they can do it in a way that won't draw
> attention to themselves.
>
> Mozilla is not significantly slower then IE, I have both and there
> isn't much in it.
>

Exactly what type of computer are you running? MSIE is 
MUCH faster than Mozilla. The browser is practically 
integrated into the OS, so it's naturally going to run faster. 
There have been benchmarks to prove it. If you like, I 
can dig some up. 

> IE6 is the first browser to come close to the standards, and it
> doesn't support Java
> applets or plugins unless you upgrade IE5.5 to IE6, then it keeps
> the support, other
> wise it does not. (but IE6 is no closer then Mozilla and supports
> stuff that wc3 don't.
>

IE 5.5 supports HTML 4.x just fine. As did 4. 

I never (repeat, NEVER) came across a site that wouldn't 
display properly in IE 5.5, until Sridhar posted that one 
page with CSS. If you're using CSS, then, and only then,
would a message be in order. Though make sure you
point out that Opera has the same problem.

> I am not stopping them from using IE, I am just warning them that
> its not our choice
> of browser and detailing some reasons why.
>

Frankly, I consider your pop-up idea to be a form of 
harassment. You are making a political statement when 
you should be thinking of intelligent ways to integrate 
IE into your webdesign. I don't want to be bombarded
with pop-ups because you're too lazy or jaded to test
out your site in IE. This is a HUGE step back you're 
taking. 

You are entitled to place a "best viewed with" text
at the bottom of your page because I realize there's
always going to be one browser that looks a little
better than another, but to state that you won't even try 
and make your page viewable to roughly two thirds of 
the web population is ridiculous.

This is about giving people a choice. This is why I'm
upset as MS. It's not about herding people into a certain 
direction by using scare tactics. I haven't heard much 
in the way of truth from 
you *OR* them. 

>
> We need to do something like this, we can't be underhanded about it
> like them, but we
> can't afford to sit by while they carry on..
>

Do something about WHAT? I think the peanut gallery has spoken
on the MSN.com scandel. Everybody agrees it was universally stupid 
of them and that they were full of crap. 

MSN.com still looks fine in Mozilla 0.95 as of five minutes ago. 

> who knows, if M$ .NET takes off, we may one day end up in a
> situation where nothing not
> IE will be able to browse any .NET supporting site...
>

Until that day comes, stick with the facts....

> Do you think they wouldn't do that if they could get away with
> it????
>
> This is very serious,,  I really believe something like this is a
> good way of educating
> people... The truth always prevales, but only if people hear it.
>

Then start telling the truth. 

-- 
John Hokanson Jr.
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, 
design a building, write a sonnet, balance 
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the 
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act 
alone, solve equations,analyze a new problem, 
pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty 
meal, fight efficiently, die gallently. Specialization 
is for insects." - Robert A. Heinlein



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