dbota wrote:
>Civileme,
>Well, we leapfrogged each other there with our posts. I have not yet
>succeeded at getting 5.1 on the 40 gig with win98 and Mandrake 8.1. I have
>attached both of your replies below and inserted further questions in
>CAPITAL type. I am still doing something wrong it seems.
>
>===========================
>
>Well with 8.1 active you can run diskdrake from Mandrake Control
>Center--just go to Hardware=>Mount Points and you are there.
>
>I ALREADY DID A REINSTALL OF 8.1 AND FOUND RH WOULD NOT INSTALL (THIS WAS
>MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM ALSO). IT WAS LOOKING FOR HDA AND ALL MY PARTITIONS ARE
>HDA1 (WIN) OR BETTER ... WHY IS WIN HDA1 INSTEAD OF HDA?
>
Because that is the way we number partitions... hda is the whole disk
and the partitions on it are hda1-hda16 (more are possible). The first
four numbers refer to primary partitions, and the rest are extended.
>
>
>If you have space still available for RH 5.1, just make partitions for
>it and then install it. Diskdrake is a Mandrake Tool, so you won't find
>it on RH... They have a much less powerful tool called disk druid which
>usually doesn't make partitions except for partitioning an already made
>extended area. When you use diskdrake, make sure you are making ext2
>partitions because RH 5.1 doesn't support anything else, and IIRC, you
>need the RH / to be a primary partition. (none of Mandrake's need to be)
>
>THIS IS NO DOUBT THE REASON ... SORRY TO BE SO IGNORANT, BUT I BELIEVE
>DISKDRAKE DOESN'T REFER TO/LABEL PRIMARY PARTITIONS AS WIN FDISK DOES. HOW
>DO I DO THAT EXACTLY IN DISKDRAKE?
>
OK when you click on a blank area of disk and then on "create" there are
three things for which you have blanks... The first is mount point, the
second is a dropdown list for type and the third is a preference for
primary or extended.
Note that it is a preference. If it cannot be done, diskdrake will not
try to do it.
primary partitions are hda1-hda4 on hda, and extended partitions (or as
windows would have it, logical partitions in an extended partition are
hda5-hda16) Please note that one of the primary partitions is used as a
pointer to the extended partiton chain (the so-called extended partition
in windows)
>
> That may be cause for a reinstall so you can put RH / right after the
>winpartition as a primary and let all the others even on the other disk
>be extended.
>
>As I recall from RH5.1, there were a number of problems because RH was
>moving things from one directory to another. They are more or less
>completely fixed in 5.2 and are curable in 5.1 with the ln -s instruction.
>
>WHEN I GET TO THAT POINT I WILL ASK FOR MORE PARTICULARS ON THAT ISSUE IF
>YOU DON'T MIND.
>
Not at all--then maybe we can write up the whole story jointly and post
it to the list as an ARCHIVE for WEIRD PARTITIONING requirements--then
people looking in the archives will be able to do something similar...
>
>Several caveats....
>
>Never put a windows partition after any linux extended partition.
> Windows won't see it (that's on a disk-by-disk basis)
>
>Make FAT32 your windows filesystem so you can move things to and from
>linux with ease, at least with Mandrake.
>
>Make all your RH partitions mountable from Mandrake--this allows for
>special maintenance if the RH becomes tangled at some point.
>
>Make the RH / partition a primary partition on one of the disks, else
>the RH installer will regurgitate.
>
>SOUNDS LIKE THE "PRIMARY PARTITION" ISSUE IS WHAT HAS BEEN HANGING ME UP AND
>THE 2ND DRIVE WON'T BE NECESSARY. I'LL USE DISKDRAKE AND REINSTALL 8.1
>AGAIN IF YOU CAN POINT OUT HOW I MAKE A PRIMARY PARTITION VS. WHAT I HAVE
>BEEN DOING...
>
>If you really want, I can find a couple of Mandrake 5.3 install disks
>for you. I am out of the 5.1 and 5.2 which were never commercially
>issued, and I think there are only one of each in Paris (I used to be
>their custodian). Mandrake 5.3 does not have diskdrake--that came first
>with 7.0.
>
>THANKS, BUT I AM STUCK WITH 5.1 BECAUSE OF A DEADENDED LEGACY APP. THAT
>REQUIRES IT. THAT'S IS THE REASON FOR THIS WHOLE COMPLICATED INSTALL.
>
OK Something adapted to the tangled direwctory status of that release...
>
>============================
>
>>Yes the 10G could take RH... Use the fdisk as disk druid in 5.1 is
>>rather limitefd by assumptions that did not scale. You can't see mpount
>>points unless you are running 8.1, not the install, because mount points
>>are kept in a table called /etc/fstab in the running installation, so RH
>>could see (if it has the capability) the mandrake partitions as
>>/Manroot, /Manhome,, etc if you gave it the mount points fduring install
>>just as mandrake can see the RH partitions you tell it about.
>>
>>The important thing is to use the LILO for 8.1 as it has not 1024
>>cylinder limit and can boot all three systems.
>>
>>A FAT16 partition has very limited use, but that one would best be
>>within that 1024 cylinder limit as it is from the same technology era.
>>
>
>OK, I'LL CHANGE THE FAT16 DATA PARTITION TO FAT32 ...
>
>THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP AND PATIENCE. I AM A LINUX NEWBIE AND I'VE
>FOUND THE PROCEDURE COMBINING THESE VERSIONS IS NOT EXACTLY SOMETHING I CAN
>LOOK UP IN A BOOK.... MOST PEOPLE JUST KEEP UPGRADING AND AVOID THESE
>COMPLICATIONS. WISH I COULD TOO ...
>
>DAN
>
Ummm, check www.mandrakeuser.org and see my article on
www.mandrakeforum.com which you can find with the search key "Two Mandrake"
Civileme
Since you are looking at a reinstall. may I recommend this?
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows (Windows C: drive)
/dev/hda2 /RHroot 200M ext2
/dev/hda3 /mnt/dos Your extra FAT32 (Windows D: drive)
/dev/hda5 / 250M (Hidden from you is that hda4 is used as a
pointer to the rest of the disk and
its extended partitions) ext3
/dev/hda6 swap 400M
/dev/hda7 /usr 2.5G or larger ext3
/dev/hda8 /home 1G or larger ext3
/dev/hda9 /var 1G or larger ext3
/dev/hda10 /RHhome large ext2
/dev/hda11 swap 127M (old kernel 2.0.x systems limit swap size)
/dev/hda12 /RHusr 1G or so ext2
/dev/hda13 /RHvar 200M or more ext2
/dev/hda14 /opt 2G or more if you have a powerpack and intend to use
commercial programs ext3
Yes in the RH install when it asks for swap, point it at /dev/hda11...
Now, to make the primary and secondary start the mandrake install,
delete all partitions except the first winpartition
Click on the blank area then on "create" and choose
/RHroot as mount point
200M as size
Preference as primary
do the same again--click on blank area then on "create"
/mnt/dos
whatever size
Preference as Primary or windows won't see it
do the same creation again
/ for mount point
250M size
Preference can be left default and it will be extended
Then make the rest in the order specified.
leave a couple of partitions at the end as ext2 for future expansion,
say spare1 and spare2... Both RH and Mandrake should be able to see them.
Civileme
>
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