On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:56:01 -0800
Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:35:44 -0500 Dan LaBine wrote:
> 
> > But I'm not thinking that things should be screwed up or locked
> > down to the point where people can't make significant changes,
> > not by a long shot!
> > 
> > No, what I mean is that we should make sure that everything works
> > as much as possible and I don't think that's an impossible task.
> > PCLOS has done a pretty good job of it, but anyone who knows
> > their way around a Linux distro can do a whack of interesting and
> > destructive things to it.
> > 
> > But the one major value of PCLOS is the fact that virtually all
> > of the default services and daemons work properly right from the
> > get-go and most of the essential basics like 3D video and
> > wireless work without a lot of head-bashing.
> 
> I agree.  I like to tinker, but more importantly, i like the extra
> tools and configurability.  And when I'm not in the tinkering mood,
> I want to be able to install it all and have it work.
> 
> I know windows doesn't always install well, but really, look at all
> the tech questions that pop up here that are installation related.
> How many times do we upgrade to a new version, and have to debug
> stuff that was working previously?
> 
> If we could get the out of the box workability to live next to the
> immense tweakability, that would be awesome.  And i think it's
> "just" a matter of trying it out on enough systems.
> 
> Eric
> 
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 OTOH when I first joined the crew, the list averaged
over 100 a day, and it has steadily dwindled to a
trickle.  New installs are nearly flawless now.

Only the stubborn, like me, who insist on upgrading get
in trouble, it seems.

Lee
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