----- Original Message ----
From: ET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:03:59 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way 
to reduce that?

CJ Kelley wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is 
> there a way to reduce that?
> 
> CJ Kelley wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----
>  > From: ET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > To: [email protected]
>  > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM
>  > Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
>  > there a way to reduce that?
>  >
>  > CJ Kelley wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > ----- Original Message ----
>  >  > From: Georgi Stoynev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  > To: [email protected]
>  >  > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM
>  >  > Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
>  >  > there a way to reduce that?
>  >  >
>  >  > I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and
>  >  > noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about
>  >  > 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512
>  >  > installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh
>  >  > video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into
>  >  > its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and
>  >  > what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of
>  >  > the processes looked like system processes.
>  >  >
>  >  > Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i
>  >  > was using the live cd) ?
>  >  >
>  >  > How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading
>  >  > when mandriva loads?
>  >  >
>  >  > --cj
>  >  >
>  >  > Hi,
>  >  > you can check exactly how much ram your system use by
>  >  > typing "free" in the terminal(Konsole if you use
>  >  > KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good
>  >  > idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same
>  >  > like pagefile in Win.
>  >  > For example there is my system:
>  >  > free
>  >  >              total       used       free     shared  
>  >  > buffers     cached
>  >  > Mem:        288088     283544       4544          0  
>  >  >   17272     150948
>  >  > -/+ buffers/cache:     115324     172764
>  >  > Swap:       578332          0     578332
>  >  >
>  >  > You can see that my available physical memory is about
>  >  > 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it
>  >  > can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with
>  >  > "swapon" command (check man swapon for more info).
>  >  >
>  >  > Have a good one!
>  >  > G.S.
>  >  >
>  >  > ----cjs reply----
>  >  > Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign
>  >  > it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be
>  >  > enabled. I never recommend taking off swap.
>  >  > ----end of reply----
>  >
>  > the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS
>  > is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be
>  > quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so
>  > much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks)
>  >
>  > were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping
>  > around and not able to keep up?
>  >
>  > ----cjs reply----
>  > The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging.
>  >
>  >
>  > I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb  memory
>  > shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard
>  > drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still
>  > requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left
>  > for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other
>  > sort of partition except ntfs.
> 
> sure it will... what sort of drive is this?
> 
> --cjs reply--
> No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program 
> on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard 
> drive only accepted NTFS

I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it 
(Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and 
for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with 
linux installed.
it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is 
_required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition.

don't instantly accept what a manufacturer tell you (do you count on 
getting the fuel mileage you car manufacturer told you the car gets? 
(been stuck lately) do you check the oil in your car as often as the 
owners manual says you MUST?)

----cjs reply----
ok first off, i believe i am running a hitachi (i cant open my chasis, my 
parents wont allow me, so i cant send ya the hdd. besides its teh only one ive 
got). Furthermore, i ran the windows partitioning utility and it only gave me 
the option of NTFS.. Furthermore, i tried running DEMO Linux (DEMO is the 
codename..) and some other distros (mandriva, ubuntu) and they would not detect 
it, nor would they mount it. I have a 114 gig hdd on my machine.
----end of reply----



> --end of reply--
> 
>  > The only way i can install Linux is to install a another hard drive or
>  > use a VM (which i don't have enough ram to do such a thing in windows xp
>  > since i only have like 100 mb ram left :{ ). However,  i incidentally
>  > dropped my other hard drive (it was a 5 foot fall) and it doesn't work
>  > anymore.
>  >
>  > If i were to have another hard drive available i would definately
>  > install mandriva, but would mandriva run on 100 - 200 mb ram (i have  
>  > aprogram that allows me to compress the files in my ram, so i can get up
>  > to 280 mb out of it, but xp runs really slow after optimizing my ram)
> 
> 
> forget what you know about how ram is used in XP when in Linux. they
> have completly different ways of using ram, and a ram opitmizer for XP
> will do nothing for you (except screw the pooch) in linux. (imho, M$ ram
> managers are all broken)
> you may be able to install on free space, if you run scan disk and
> defrag in MS first, so all the data is moved to one end of the disk, but
> you should allow about 10 gigs for either OS, then extra for data.
> 256 megs ram should be fine, even with shared video memory...
> 
> ---cjs reply---
> ok ill give it a try
> ---end of reply---

you should find Linux to be considerably different than windoze... I am 
sure you will like the power, once you get used to the differences.

-- 
reg. Linux User 167806
webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org
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