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--------------------------------- [22] Gary Nev backs Veron --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "Nobody works harder than Seba. He is always running. People just want to watch him, the fans should really look at him because he never stops running. The energy levels he has got are unbelievable. I bet he does more running than any other player in the game. None of us enjoyed not winning a trophy last year and he was made a scapegoat at times due to the fact that he was the big signing, but that doesn't interest us here any more. We can see from the press we have received at the start of this season that things are not going to get any better until we actually start lifting trophies again. We are just going to have to blank that out of our minds and get on with it as individuals and as a team" --------------------------------- [21] Sven - Becks in the middle --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "I think those people who say Beckham should play inside in midfield might be right. But it's not up to me to test that, it's up to Alex Ferguson. My job is to select the right players and let them play at the positions they already play in at their clubs. David works extremely hard. By just being himself he is a leader. In training he goes first all the time. There are never any discussions about whether it's raining, or if it's windy. He agrees the work should just be done, end of discussion." --------------------------------- [20] Fergie on getting keeper in --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "We will have to get a new keeper soon because we only have two kids (Ben Williams and Luke Steele) to cover for Barthez and we will be looking for another defender. The big problem is 'who do you go and buy to keep the strength of the squad up?" --------------------------------- [19] Albion fans deny song intention --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: This was sent to us from a West Brom unofficial site - sadly we don't know the name to credit it but will try and find out. West Brom fans deny they were mocking us. '(From their unofficial site): Scuffles broke out between the supporters of West Bromwich Albion and Manchester United over a bizarre misunderstanding at Old Trafford on Saturday. As most people who have played the Baggies over the past few years know, we are fairly self-mocking and have perfected the "Yam-Yam" song to the tune of "The Dambusters". For those who are uninitiated, a Yam-Yam is what those south of the Hagley Road call Black Country locals. By way of an explanation: quote: Yam-yam: "Yam orlroight?" Brummie: "Yes ta bab, are you?" Yam-yam: "Aah - bostin!" Albion fans were singled out by United fans in the street who meted out rough justice for what they took to be a dig about the 1958 Munich Air Disaster. Birmingham report that Terry Wills, an Albion supporter, claimed the incident was nothing more than an unfortunate mix-up. quote: "I am 69 years-old and, like many supporters, remember the Munich disaster," he said. There is no way any Albion fan would try to incite the United supporters about such a sensitive issue, This is a chant Albion fans regularly use and will continue to use. It is very unfortunate it happened at Old Trafford. It's very sad some people had their day ruined but it really was a misunderstanding between the two sets of fans. There is certainly no way Albion were making fun of, or any reference to, Munich." --------------------------------- [18] Even worse than at Old Trafford --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: This from safestanding.com I thought I would give you an update on the standing situation at Southampton: First some background: Over the last six months the club have sought to encourage fans in the Northam section of the ground to sit down. The Northam is largely populated by those who used to stand on the Archers Road end at The Dell - this was an area that stood for many years and which was tolerated by the club/stewards/police. The chairman, Rupert Lowe, is in favour of a debate on the issue and believes that standing should be allowed under the right circumstances. He has also said that pressure from the FLA/Council means that for season 2002/03 there will have to be a crackdown on standing in the Northam. This crackdown started with all season ticket holders having to sign a undertaking saying that they would sit. If you didn't sign you were unable to renew your season ticket. The undertaking does not have to be signed by people buying individual tickets. Last week the club sent an information pack to all people with season tickets on the Northam, containing letters from the club, police, council, and I think the FLA. They also enclosed a "mugshot" of fans standing on the Northam last year but with faces obscured. This information pack made it clear that if people continued to stand the club risked having the Northam section closed by the FLA/Council. On Saturday at the game against Middlesborough the club began enforcing the no standing rule. Several fans were told by stewards to sit down or be ejected. These fans were congregated in the lower section of the Northam stand. The club did nothing to attempt to get the "hardcore" standers at the top of the stand to sit. The police took extensive video footage of the people who were standing, and also videoed each occasion when a steward spoke to a fan asking them to sit down. The issue is causing fierce debate and in some cases conflict between Saints fans. On numerous occassions on Saturday stewards were called in by fans who were seated behind standing fans in order to get the standing fans to sit down. There was much chanting from the standing sections regarding those who were sitting down and this caused some angry scenes. In response to the police videotaping it is expected that some fans may attempt to disguise themselves/cover their faces for the next game (against Chelsea next Wednesday). Excited 90/38 (have to protect my identity for fear of recrimination from club) --------------------------------- [17] Keane on West Brom --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "It was quite a hard game for us but we knew it was going to be tough especially with the conditions and with West Brom having just won promotion they were bound to battle and that's what they did. We should have really scored in the first half and when I missed a great chance and I thought it was going to be one of those days. Even when they went to ten men it was difficult but we kept plugging away and luckily enough Ole took his chance. Physically and mentally I am hoping we will see the benefits of the rest I have had this summer out on the pitch. And hopefully this performance will have put paid to the negativity that's been aimed at the club recently. Of course we were disappointed about Hungary and no one more so than us, but it's our job to put it right and do our best and I'm sure the fans appreciated the effort today. It wasn't an outstanding display - but we got the three points and that was the priority. We'd have settled for that before the match. We have to try a! nd improve now and win every home game after losing six here last season - we can't afford to do that this season." --------------------------------- [16] Keane - read the book first --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "I'm not worried at all about what's going on at the moment. I always try to tell the truth and the way it is. That's the way things are and I try and enjoy my football. For me that's what it's all about. I don't worry about the headlines . People haven't read the book yet and I'd recommend you read it first before rushing to conclusions." --------------------------------- [15] McCarthy on Keane --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "The fact is he has said he will not play again as long as I am manager or coach. He is entitled to change his mind, just as I can, but if he is not prepared to play there is nothing I can do. Roy has said he has retired from international football, which is something he was always going to do after the World Cup. I'm sure he means well. Maybe I could have smiled a bit more but other than that I have no regrets about what happened during the summer. I can't change what people think of me. I just want to get on with my job and I think we have done pretty well to be honest. Once again I find myself talking about things other than football. As far as I am concerned the matter is closed but it is going to be raked up continuously. It is always going to be there, looming in the background. As a football manager, I always expected to be judged on results and strangely enough that is what happened when the table isn't as good as it is now. Now it has turned I am being judged on t! hings other than results, which is a little bit unfair." Asked though on his own book due out soon "That is a separate issue. They are my reflections on the World Cup. That is for me to do and you will see it when it comes out. I addressed the issue at the time and whatever people want to say afterwards, I can do nothing about." Hmmm. --------------------------------- [14] More Keano stick --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: Jason McAteer. Perhaps a Bob the Builder cd is his level, all those words can confuse after all... "I'd rather buy a Bob the Builder CD for my two-year-old son than the book. I haven't bought the newspapers where the extracts were published, I won't be buying the book and I think the other lads are the same. The whole Roy Keane thing seems to be rearing its ugly head every five minutes. But the players have moved on. Honestly, we have. We've not been shocked by what he said because we know him better than anyone. Others may be shocked and hurt. But we've known for a long time that he was releasing a book and it was never going to rattle anyone here. We know he's capable of this, and it will be the same for the Manchester United lads - they won't be shocked about him having a go at them because he says it all in the dressing room anyway. We got it out of our system a long time ago and with him gone we just want football to be the main topic again. I don't think it will ever properly go away. It just puzzles me that someone should release a book having a go at everyone when he is still playing, rather than when he's retired. Has he got a hidden agenda? I respect him as a footballer, but I don't understand him. He's an associate rather than a friend. Sometimes you can see where he is coming from. But then you hear he is calling Jack Charlton a 'joke'. I mean, let's be serious. The man took Ireland from virtually nowhere to two World Cups. It's the pinnacle for any country, and he did it twice. If there's a joke in that, I don't get it." --------------------------------- [13] McCarthy avoids questions --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "I can't change what anybody else thinks of me, so we'll get on with doing the job with our players. I think we've done well to be honest." --------------------------------- [12] And you are who exactly? --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: Reading's captain Phil Parkinson "I don't normally like criticising fellow pros, but I feel Roy has overstepped the mark. I remember when he made that tackle on Haaland, and thinking it was made by a player with total disregard for the consequences of his actions. Sometimes it seems he feels he's bigger than the game itself. To come out and admit the maliciousness in his tackle was premeditated is an insult to our profession, and I hope the FA throw the book at him." --------------------------------- [11] Duff to sign new Blackburn deal? --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "If the contract had been there on Friday, I would have signed it. It's just not quite ready. Hopefully, by the time I come back from international duty, everything will be sorted. I'm very happy here. My game has improved no end in the past year, so I'm definitely going to stay. I haven't prolonged it, talks just went on for that long and it didn't have that much to do with me. So when it's ready to sign, I'll sign it." --------------------------------- [10] Division Two memories --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: We're looking for your great and unique memories from the 2nd Division season. If you have short tales from that year - whether it be the season itself, specific games, at Old Trafford or places like Millwall and Blackpool send them in. The games, the memories, the craic, anything and everything - we're after your tales. Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks --------------------------------- [9] Ever met a player? --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: Any funny/serious/bizarre encounters with United players past or present - any memories at all you think our readers would be interested in send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks --------------------------------- [8] Bizarre quote/story of the day --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: Sven's mum, Ulla Eriksson "Alex Ferguson is a threat to my son. Sven told me during a phone conversation that it is pointless having national team games in April or May because Ferguson, in one way or another, makes sure his stars aren't fit." Too right. --------------------------------- [7] Italian TV chaos --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: >From PA 'The Italian league authorities will decide on Tuesday whether to postpone the start of the Serie A season due to the lack of a television agreement between the clubs and broadcasters. Italian state broadcaster RAI has offered £28.7million for the right to broadcast highlights next season, according to Italian national newspaper Corriere della Sera. It is highly unlikely that the clubs will accept the offer as it is substantially less than the £56million paid out last season in a deal which also included the Coppa Italia. However, RAI appear unwilling to go any higher despite the troubled financial state of some of Serie A clubs. "RAI are not prepared to bleed to salvage some clubs that have debts," said RAI general director Agostino Sacca. Eight Serie A clubs have yet to even come close to a deal with subscription channels Tele Piu and Stream, who show the league matches live. With each club able to negotiate their own contract, the bigger teams like Juventus - who have agreed a £34.5million contract with Tele Piu - have already completed their deals. However, the same station has offered just £3.2million each to Atalanta, Brescia, Perugia, Chievo, Como, Empoli, Modena and Piacenza, who do not have the same nationwide appeal.' --------------------------------- [6] Escude still wants OT move --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "I am worried such a chance might not happen again. It's an incredible opportunity for me and this is what I want the Rennes directors to understand. A career in football is short and things are always going fast, that is why it is important to seize the opportunities when they come up. It is time for me to move on and reach another step in my career. I have been repeating since the season started that I wanted to leave, I will keep fighting to be heard. I have spent three great seasons with Rennes but I have other objectives and ambitions now. Manchester knocked on my door and that makes me dream, makes me feel like going, this club is so prestigious. And if Rennes sell me it can only be beneficial to them, they will see their reputation grow thanks to that transfer." --------------------------------- [5] Ole wants more Norway goals --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: "I haven't scored enough for Norway. I have had some chances of late which I haven't put away. On the other hand, I want to contribute to us winning and in that sense it doesn't matter who scores." --------------------------------- [4] Haaland tries cure in America --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: Haaland's lawyer Dag Steinfeld "Alf Inge is in the States visiting one of the best knee specialists, Richard Steadman, in the business." --------------------------------- [3] Ole not to play the 90 minutes --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: ASlight confusion -there was talk in Norway that Ole was going to be rested, but now they are saying he won't be playing 90 minutes in their friendly game. --------------------------------- [2] Order a Red News sub online --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: Thanks to our new link with the safe, simple to use and world wide massively known paypal you can now order your 10 issue subscription to Red News the fanzine via credit card payment, ordering online from wherever you live in the world, getting the mag to your door. To order the 10 issue sub to be sent to a UK address click on To order the 10 issue sub to be sent to an address in the rest of the world click on And those philanthropists out there can help with our costs by making an online donation via paypal. Doesn't matter how small the amount is, every bit helps with the costs of the site - thanks. click on. --------------------------------- [1] Gary Nev turns down testimonial --------------------------------- Posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by db: posted on reddevils list by sarah Gary Neville was asked in the current United magazine if he was having a testimonial this year, which he replied that "even though I know I am eligible, I will not be having one". I did not think this fella could go further up in my estimation but he has. Obviously players no longer need the money, but is Gary the first United player to reject the offer or a testimonial? It will be interesting to see what the responses of Nicky Butt and David Beckham will be to the issue (both also 'owed' testimonials this year). ---------------------------------------------------------- This email has been filtered for swear words which cause some email systems to block messages. ----------------------------------------------------------