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Hi Maurizio,

- -------- Original Message  --------
From: Maurizio Molina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:[Nfsen-discuss] How to configure sampling rate
Date: Tue Sep 19 2006 14:36:33 GMT+0200 (CEST)

> Peter Haag wrote:
> 
>>
>> -------- Original Message  --------
>> From: Szymon Trocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Nfsen-discuss] How to configure sampling rate
>> Date: Thu Aug 31 2006 13:16:06 GMT+0200 (CEST)
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm a new user of this application.
>>> I have two sources of NetFlow v5 using two different sampling rates
>>> each. How can I configure nfsen to display the exact and real traffic or
>>> packet levels as it seems the graphs show much less traffic than it goes
>>> through the routers (rather single Mbs then hundreds of Mbs).
>>> I'm using nfsen-1.2.4 and nfdump-1.5.2
>>
>> Up to know, you can not configure sampling rates, however a simple
>> multiply may do the trick.
>> I can prepare a patch for 1.2.4. Stay tuned.
> 
> I'd like to remark that the re-normalization of netflow data after
> sampling brings two issues:
> 1)  multiplying the  number of packets and bytes by the inverse of the
> sampling rate to obtain the real figure is an unbiased estimator (i.e.
> it is correct), while for the number of flows it is not. Therefore, if
> one chooses to  give the re-normalized figure of the flows anyway, one
> should at least add a warning that the information is not 
> representative of the real figure.
> 2) Also for packets and bytes, the re-normalized figure is affected by
> an uncertainty that should be reported along with the figure, not to
> give the user eccessive "trust" in potentially wrong figures. There are
> simple statistical formulas that can be applied and I'd be happy to
> discuss them in the list, if there is consensus that this can be helpful.

Yes - I'm aware of that. I'd appreciate any links/pointers/formulas regarding 
sampling. So far I did not find any useful information, why I still hesitated 
to implement simple math.

        - Peter

> Regards,
> Maurizio
> 
>>     - Peter
>>
>>> Thank you in advance and regards,
>>
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