http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigcomm/sigcomm2004/papers/p416-estan1.pdf#search=%22optimal%20netflow%20sample%20rate%22

On 9/20/06, Peter Haag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi Maurizio,
>
> - -------- Original Message  --------
> From: Maurizio Molina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re:[Nfsen-discuss] How to configure sampling rate
> Date: Tue Sep 19 2006 14:36:33 GMT+0200 (CEST)
>
> > Peter Haag wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message  --------
> >> From: Szymon Trocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: [Nfsen-discuss] How to configure sampling rate
> >> Date: Thu Aug 31 2006 13:16:06 GMT+0200 (CEST)
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> I'm a new user of this application.
> >>> I have two sources of NetFlow v5 using two different sampling rates
> >>> each. How can I configure nfsen to display the exact and real traffic or
> >>> packet levels as it seems the graphs show much less traffic than it goes
> >>> through the routers (rather single Mbs then hundreds of Mbs).
> >>> I'm using nfsen-1.2.4 and nfdump-1.5.2
> >>
> >> Up to know, you can not configure sampling rates, however a simple
> >> multiply may do the trick.
> >> I can prepare a patch for 1.2.4. Stay tuned.
> >
> > I'd like to remark that the re-normalization of netflow data after
> > sampling brings two issues:
> > 1)  multiplying the  number of packets and bytes by the inverse of the
> > sampling rate to obtain the real figure is an unbiased estimator (i.e.
> > it is correct), while for the number of flows it is not. Therefore, if
> > one chooses to  give the re-normalized figure of the flows anyway, one
> > should at least add a warning that the information is not
> > representative of the real figure.
> > 2) Also for packets and bytes, the re-normalized figure is affected by
> > an uncertainty that should be reported along with the figure, not to
> > give the user eccessive "trust" in potentially wrong figures. There are
> > simple statistical formulas that can be applied and I'd be happy to
> > discuss them in the list, if there is consensus that this can be helpful.
>
> Yes - I'm aware of that. I'd appreciate any links/pointers/formulas regarding 
> sampling. So far I did not find any useful information, why I still hesitated 
> to implement simple math.
>
>         - Peter
>
> > Regards,
> > Maurizio
> >
> >>     - Peter
> >>
> >>> Thank you in advance and regards,
> >>
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