I have another approach to select dev tools.If each one wait for somebody
else the evolution can't exists.


2008/10/13 Miika Makinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> This is *really important* topic. I chose iBatis over NHibernate couple of
> years ago because I read it was used by MySpace. I doubt I'm the only one
> who has no other ways to choose products but to read a bit and there's
> nothing as comforting as learning that some big system has been built with
> it.
> Great to hear about this Ebay thing. Now how does it being built with
> Hibernate in Java relate to finding examples of stuff built with NHibernate?
> :)
>
> A bit disappointed by this search:
> http://www.google.com/search?q=site:highscalability.com+nhibernate
>
> Cheers,
> Miika
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Tuna Toksöz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Cool point, I didn't know about Ebay using Hibernate of Java.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:39 PM, sbohlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It seems to me that we could broaden the definition of 'a success
>>> story' to include not only success with *N*Hibernate but also with
>>> Hibernate in the Java world.  Since on its face the 'resistence' to
>>> adopting NHibernate would seem to be much the same as with Hibernate,
>>> it seems that a success story with Hibernate would be nearly as
>>> valuable as a success story with NHibernate.
>>>
>>> And for that, one need look no further than EBay, poster child for
>>> scalable and resilient systems.  EBay has built their entire auction-
>>> handling infrastructure atop Hibernate for Java and you can't really
>>> get a whole lot bigger than the 3rd or 4th busiest URL on the internet
>>> in re: applicability to big systems.  I routinely point critics who
>>> say 'ORM can't scale' or 'ORM can't be used in a high-performance
>>> context' to EBay as a success story for the implementation of an ORM
>>> in a high-volume, high-performance, high-scalabilty situation and once
>>> they discover that EBay uses HIbernate and that NHibernate offers the
>>> same capabilities in the .NET world, it tends to shut them up.  There
>>> are still all the OSS licensing concerns for any company to deal with,
>>> but the EBay example tends to quiet the technical side of the critics'
>>> arguments when I deal with our clients.
>>>
>>> To be sure, EBay has spent significant time tweaking the heck out of
>>> their Hibernate implementation in order to ensure they maintain their
>>> desired performance metrics (and they are using things like Hibernate
>>> Shards for which there is no correllary -- that I am aware of -- in
>>> NHibernate), but their success does prove its entirely possible to do
>>> big systemds with Hibernate.
>>>
>>> For some detail on EBay's infrastructre (which is REALLY interesting
>>> to consider for anyone building even a smaller system but for which
>>> performance and scalability are still concerns, check out this episode
>>> of the always-valuable Software Engineering Radio:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.se-radio.net/podcast/2008-09/episode-109-ebay039s-architecture-principles-randy-shoup
>>>
>>> -Steve B.
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 9:07 am, "Tuna Toksöz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > As you may notice
>>> > here<
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers/browse_thread/thread/7e05fa561..
>>> .>,
>>> > we want NH to be prefered over other alternatives and one way to show
>>> > this
>>> > is to have some names of firms used it successfuly. To say the truth,
>>> there
>>> > are _many_. But none of them show up when you do a search.
>>> >
>>> > In short, we need success stories to collect, if you have one, please
>>> don't
>>> > hesitate to send it here.
>>> >
>>> > Your contributions are all welcome.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Tuna Toksöz
>>> >
>>> > Typos included to enhance the readers attention!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tuna Toksöz
>>
>> Typos included to enhance the readers attention!
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


-- 
Fabio Maulo

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