Yeh, but surely this depends on your situation and experience. I didn't mean
that I chose only because of success stories, those were just reassuring my
choice. Reflecting back, I really chose because I was too scared to let go
of handwriting queries...
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Fabio Maulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have another approach to select dev tools.If each one wait for somebody
> else the evolution can't exists.
>
>
> 2008/10/13 Miika Makinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> This is *really important* topic. I chose iBatis over NHibernate couple of
>> years ago because I read it was used by MySpace. I doubt I'm the only one
>> who has no other ways to choose products but to read a bit and there's
>> nothing as comforting as learning that some big system has been built with
>> it.
>> Great to hear about this Ebay thing. Now how does it being built with
>> Hibernate in Java relate to finding examples of stuff built with NHibernate?
>> :)
>>
>> A bit disappointed by this search:
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=site:highscalability.com+nhibernate
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Miika
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Tuna Toksöz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Cool point, I didn't know about Ebay using Hibernate of Java.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:39 PM, sbohlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that we could broaden the definition of 'a success
>>>> story' to include not only success with *N*Hibernate but also with
>>>> Hibernate in the Java world.  Since on its face the 'resistence' to
>>>> adopting NHibernate would seem to be much the same as with Hibernate,
>>>> it seems that a success story with Hibernate would be nearly as
>>>> valuable as a success story with NHibernate.
>>>>
>>>> And for that, one need look no further than EBay, poster child for
>>>> scalable and resilient systems.  EBay has built their entire auction-
>>>> handling infrastructure atop Hibernate for Java and you can't really
>>>> get a whole lot bigger than the 3rd or 4th busiest URL on the internet
>>>> in re: applicability to big systems.  I routinely point critics who
>>>> say 'ORM can't scale' or 'ORM can't be used in a high-performance
>>>> context' to EBay as a success story for the implementation of an ORM
>>>> in a high-volume, high-performance, high-scalabilty situation and once
>>>> they discover that EBay uses HIbernate and that NHibernate offers the
>>>> same capabilities in the .NET world, it tends to shut them up.  There
>>>> are still all the OSS licensing concerns for any company to deal with,
>>>> but the EBay example tends to quiet the technical side of the critics'
>>>> arguments when I deal with our clients.
>>>>
>>>> To be sure, EBay has spent significant time tweaking the heck out of
>>>> their Hibernate implementation in order to ensure they maintain their
>>>> desired performance metrics (and they are using things like Hibernate
>>>> Shards for which there is no correllary -- that I am aware of -- in
>>>> NHibernate), but their success does prove its entirely possible to do
>>>> big systemds with Hibernate.
>>>>
>>>> For some detail on EBay's infrastructre (which is REALLY interesting
>>>> to consider for anyone building even a smaller system but for which
>>>> performance and scalability are still concerns, check out this episode
>>>> of the always-valuable Software Engineering Radio:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.se-radio.net/podcast/2008-09/episode-109-ebay039s-architecture-principles-randy-shoup
>>>>
>>>> -Steve B.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 12, 9:07 am, "Tuna Toksöz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > As you may notice
>>>> > here<
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers/browse_thread/thread/7e05fa561..
>>>> .>,
>>>> > we want NH to be prefered over other alternatives and one way to show
>>>> > this
>>>> > is to have some names of firms used it successfuly. To say the truth,
>>>> there
>>>> > are _many_. But none of them show up when you do a search.
>>>> >
>>>> > In short, we need success stories to collect, if you have one, please
>>>> don't
>>>> > hesitate to send it here.
>>>> >
>>>> > Your contributions are all welcome.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Tuna Toksöz
>>>> >
>>>> > Typos included to enhance the readers attention!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tuna Toksöz
>>>
>>> Typos included to enhance the readers attention!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Fabio Maulo
>
> >
>

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