This is the client requirements.. as i understand it stems from the fact
that the application will be installed at multiple locations, and some have
sqlserver while others have oracle.


On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Ken Egozi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I really don't get the need to swap RDBMSs.
> I mean, really. how many times in a lifecycle of a majot application does
> one switches his high-cost Oracle servers into the
> not-as-high-but-still-high-cost MS-Sql? or from Postgres to MySql
> whaterver?  usually it'd be a kind of a strategical desicion that will be
> accompanies by business changes -> thus a change to the app anyway.
>
> Especially doesn't make sense in switching Oracle/SqlServer. Both are
> pricey (one of them rediciulusly pricey), and you'd spent the dimes if you
> want to squeeze some special things that only this said server can give you.
> So you end up with special PL-SQL/T-SQL code that needs to be migrated
> anyway.
>
> My stance is that if you didn't get to the point of needed the propriety
> stuff in the DBMS, then you don't have any reason to switch DBMS anyway, cuz
> you won't use the propriety stuff in the target system anyway.  and if you
> will, then it's a change in the application anyway, so why bother with
> "switchability" to begin with?
>
>
> End Rant
>
>
>
>
> unless you write a simple application that will get installed on many
> places, and even then for low-needed scenarios I'd go with an embedded
> Firebird / SQLite or SQL Express installation, while for large
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, N. D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> We have a similar scenario, 2 teams considering both EF and NH, but the
>> determining factor is Oracle support and ability to switch SqlServer/Oracle
>> seamlessly.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Scott Belchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Tuna,
>>> I was recently brought on board to General Mills HQ to help their
>>> "Microsoft Center For Excellence" team determine which ORM tool to use.  My
>>> sole purpose at this contract is to re-develop one of their existing
>>> websites in Entity Framework and NHibernate side by side so that they can
>>> compare the two when they are done.  My initial plan was to do a repository
>>> pattern with IoC containers to do the switch between which Repo the website
>>> should consume, but had such a hard time separating concerns with the Entity
>>> Framework that we decided to scrap the EF portion of the project for the
>>> website and just use NHibernate.  They will be proving out the entity
>>> framework with a WCF application instead.
>>>
>>> So, if all goes well, and I do a good job showcasing the wonders of
>>> nhibernate, you will have a really smart team at General Mills pushing
>>> NHibernate to all of the other teams here.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know how everything goes after the contract is over.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Tuna Toksöz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> As you may notice 
>>>> here<http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers/browse_thread/thread/7e05fa56121a500>,
>>>>  we want NH to be prefered over other alternatives and one way to show this
>>>> is to have some names of firms used it successfuly. To say the truth, there
>>>> are _many_. But none of them show up when you do a search.
>>>>
>>>> In short, we need success stories to collect, if you have one, please
>>>> don't hesitate to send it here.
>>>>
>>>> Your contributions are all welcome.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tuna Toksöz
>>>>
>>>> Typos included to enhance the readers attention!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
> >
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