I just answered to your bad example of complain to nhibernate. So, sorry for not being so mature as you, but I still can't get your point.
2010/8/28 Frans Bouma <[email protected]> > > Frans, are you asking for an "adult developer" and showing this post? in > the > > same mail? > > > > This post is bad joke and meaningless. > > * I like having options, Hql and Linq, because some queries in Linq are a > > PITA. > > * I can deal with assemblies. > > * I do believe in opensource way of doing things, community-driven, and I > > think it works very well in nhibernate. > > > > and at the end the guy said : > > > > "The situation is frustrating because NHibernate is currently my data > access > > tool of choice. For all of its shortcomings I do not know of a better > > alternative. " > > > > so WTF? A criticism to nhibernate that ends with "I do not know a better > > alternative", Lets suppose that there is a better alternative and he > doesn't > > know yet... This better alternative has failed already, because he can't > > find it, so it doesn't have any wikis, blogs or so. Then .... is not > better > > at all. I wouldn't trust in something like that. > > *sigh*. > > Did you even read the first line of that post? Anyway, it was an > _example_. > And what's your point exactly, Jose? I asked a serious question, got > a stupid childish reply back. Your post is also an illustration how mature > some people are on this list. Sorry I *asked* a question about how things > are done, because ofcourse that has to be slammed down quickly with replies > like yours, burrying the real point. > > FB > > > 2010/8/28 Frans Bouma <[email protected]> > > > > > > Serious question: why are you mocking my serious post? Is it so > hard > > for you > > to act as an adult developer for once? Was it again me who was out > of > > line, > > Fabio? FFS! > > > > It's not me who noticed it first btw: > > http://hackingon.net/post/A-Criticism-of-NHibernate.aspx > > > > Anyway, the 'dev list' you mentioned has had no debate about a > > feature since > > I subscribed months ago. > > > > Unf**king believeable. > > > > FB > > > > > > > > > ahh... bureaucratic stuff. ok > > > Some features are proposed by users in JIRA. If the feature is > > trivial > > then > > > it is discussed directly in the comments of JIRA ticket; where no > > trivial > > is > > > discussed and voted by the wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list. > > > Some other features, as for example QueryOver, come from contrib > > projects; > > > how include, what include and how implements the idea in the core > > is > > > partially discussed and voted by the wind-team in the NH's wind- > > dev-list, > > > and partially discussed, in private, by wind-team's members as, > in > > this > > > case, Richard Wind Brown, Oren Wind Eini and Fabio Wind Maulo. > > > > > > The features proposed by wind-team's member are discussed and > voted > > by the > > > wind-team in the NH's wind-dev-list. (you can observe this > behavior > > in > > > various cases in the wind-dev-list history as for example the old > > linq- > > > provider, the proposal of ConfORM, the remotion of some strongly > > reference > > > as Castle, log4net, etc. etc.) > > > > > > There are some features that does not need a deep discussion > > because > > > NHibernate is :".NET port of the excellent Java Hibernate which > > provides > > > Object/Relational mapping to persist objects in a relational > > database." > > > These features follows a similar procedure but, this time, in the > > > Hibernate's wind-team. > > > > > > To be short: "Wind" is the second or third name of each > > NHibernate's team > > > member. > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Though who adds the features and who decides which ones are > > > implemented? > > > That's what I meant. I'm not suggesting BDUF, I'm > suggesting > > a step > > > back > > > from the framework and look at what should be done, then > add > > those > > > tasks, > > > ask volunteers to develop them from front to back (that > > means: code, > > > design > > > decision description doc (for maintainability), tests and > > > documentation > > > (!)). > > > > > > FB > > > > > > > > > > The wind come from here > > > > > http://nhforge.org/wikis/howtonh/nhibernate-features.aspx > > > > > <http://nhforge.org/wikis/howtonh/nhibernate-features.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > http://nhibernate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nhibernate/trunk/nhibern > > > ate/rel > > > > easenotes.txt?revision=5159&view=markup > > > > http://nhforge.org/blogs/nhibernate/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://nhibernate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nhibernate/trunk/nhiber > > > nate/re > > > > > > > leasenotes.txt?revision=5159&view=markup> for work done > > after > > > Alpha2 > > > > > > release > > > > the wind come from here > > > > > > > > > > http://216.121.112.228/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10000&versio > > > n=10320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://216.121.112.228/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10000&versi > > > on=1032 > > > > > > > 0> if somebody want to know from where will come the wind > > in the > > > next > > > > > > future > > > > http://216.121.112.228/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Frans Bouma < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Though, it might be good to make a list of features > > which > > are > > > must- > > > > have > > > > features for 3.0 so focus can be given to those. > Now > > it > > looks > > > like > > > it > > > > depends on the direction where the wind comes from. > > > > > > > > FB > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd say it's pretty stable, thanks to continuous > > > integration. > > > > > Only new areas (Linq, QueryOver, etc) are seeing > > major > > > changes; > > > > everything > > > > > else remains compatible with 2.1.2. > > > > > > > > > > That said, sometimes there ARE unintended > breaking > > changes. > > > It > > > > doesn't > > > > hurt > > > > > to try, though. > > > > > > > > > > Diego > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:51, v64 > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're trying to decide whether/when to > switch > > to > > > 3.0.0 and > > > > need some > > > > > input. > > > > > > > > > > How stable is it? What are areas of > > instability? > > > > > > > > > > When is the release planned? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > v64 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are > > subscribed > > > to the > > > > Google > > > > > Groups "nhusers" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > to > > > > > > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > <mailto:nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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