thanks a lot for the info Stan, I appreciate it!

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>wrote:

>   It has been awhile since I did locks, but I remember that Ford
> (including Mercury and Lincoln) keys have two sets of cuts on the same lock:
> one for the door and one for the ignition.  So cutting a code key requires
> both the ignition and the door lock, both of which are easy to remove.
> There is a little hole in the bottom of the ignition.  If you have a key,
> put it in the ignition and stick a stiff pin or wire in the hole, you turn
> and pull the ignition plug out.  Don't remember which way, but probably the
> same direction as trying to start the car.
> For the door, there is a flat clip that is, If I remember, accessible from
> the end of the door.  Pull that out and then pull the key plug out of the
> door.  Carefully...
> That's how Ford did it back in the '90s when I worked on them.  Don't know
> what may have changed since then, but I wish you well with it.
>
> *Stanley*
>
>
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> *From:* Angela Kennedy <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:03:30 AM
>
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping for
> more then a few pointers
>
> '93 Mercury Tracer with no code on the lock
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> depends on the car, type, year and model
>>
>>  On Jun 14, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Angela Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> SPEAKING OF KEYS, does anybody know if you have a car where the key fits
>> both the door and ignition and if you remake a key to fit JUST the door, it
>> won't fit the ignition and vice versa?? I was told , over the phone, to
>> remove my door lock so the locksmith could get the code and remake the key.
>> So I was thinking that if I get  door key made, volla!, I'd have the
>> igniton. But, when I got there with door lock in hand, the locksmith said it
>> it didn't work like that. He'd have to have both the door lock and the
>> igniton to create a working key for both. Is this true or is this guy just
>> trying to get my money. Can somebody verify cause I've been a bit frustrated
>> about this ever since I lost my key to my car.(the only key, which I'm
>> positive will turn up right after I spend money I don't have on a
>> locksmith) The guy does work at a reputable neighborhood locksmith but you
>> never know. I wanna be sure before I fork over this cash.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Mark Hasslinger <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>   In southeast Asia, the local keymakers hold the blank keys in their
>>> toes and a file in two hands so as to get a steady and straight cut and make
>>> a key in about a minute and a half. No problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 6/13/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping for more
>>> then a few pointers
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 8:02 PM
>>>
>>>   I'm surprised you were able to find an actual locksmith. There was an
>>> old guy in my hometown, made all his keys by hand on a grinding wheel, and
>>> would try it in your lock to make sure he was happy with it before he took
>>> your money. Its hard to find craftsman like that anymore.
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:48 PM, The Webby 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was a dummy and lost my keys to my bike - I thought I was going to
>>>> have to spring for 200 ignition assembly until a bike mechanic told me
>>>> to simply take the ignition switch to a locksmith and have him cut a
>>>> key from that - the good thing about that - it matches the tank lock
>>>> and the others.
>>>> cost me 27$
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 9:34 pm, Christopher Anderson 
>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hey Colin,I have the exact same model and I've been through ignition
>>>> issues
>>>> > already.  On an otherwise bulletproof bike it's a poorly designed
>>>> part, so
>>>> > I'm wondering that your fusebox might be fine.
>>>> > I got mine 2 years ago, in similar condition, and last year the
>>>> ignition
>>>> > started acting up, cutting out while I was riding or not turning the
>>>> > headlight/signals/gauges on.  Plus the key came out with the engine
>>>> still
>>>> > running.  I was able to replace it with a part from a similar model, I
>>>> think
>>>> > maybe the '84 or '85.
>>>> > I would suggest if you have a multimeter you should unbolt the
>>>> headlight,
>>>> > pull it out far enough to get access to the ignition contacts, and
>>>> check
>>>> > that there is continuity to the fusebox for the correct circuits in
>>>> the
>>>> > correct key positions (listed in the electrical schematics of the
>>>> manual, or
>>>> > I could walk you through it).
>>>> > The point is, I think it's worth having a look at before you resolve
>>>> the
>>>> > tank cap issue.  If your ignition is the electrical problem, then you
>>>> might
>>>> > be able to replace them both and get a matching set with a single key.
>>>> > -Christoph
>>>> >
>>>> > ps. If the plastic cap over the ignition contacts is still in one
>>>> piece, you
>>>> > are a lucky man.  Be very careful with it.  If you can trace the wires
>>>> out
>>>> > of the ignition and test them elsewhere, all the better.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Cdawgdevine <
>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>  >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > i called a bunch of lock smiths no one will pick it, and its not the
>>>> > > same key as the ignition at some point and time some one must have
>>>> > > replaced the ignition or tank lock, i found a site that has all the
>>>> > > parts i could ever need for the bike, and they have locking gas
>>>> caps,
>>>> > > it seems there is no other options and all the fourms i keep reading
>>>> > > tell me the best option is to drill it out and replace it
>>>> >
>>>> > > On May 1, 11:16 am, Tree Doc 
>>>> > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > DRILL OUT THE LOCK?!!! AY CARUMBA!!!
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Holy Moly, get some advice on that option before taking it. Have a
>>>> > > > locksmith pick it or something. I'm not well-versed in tank locks
>>>> but
>>>> > > > that's the only mechanism that keeps your tank closed. The key for
>>>> the
>>>> > > > ignition is the same key that opens the tank unless one or the
>>>> other
>>>> > > > have been replaced somewhere along the line.
>>>>
>>>>
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