Yeah, I'll try and see what happened there. I rode today. I did a lil adjusting and no vibration at all until 75 then a slight vibration. Overall, it's better than it was. Thankx for all the advice and help!! I will see you guys soon!! Gotta go do some more riding;-)
On Jul 6, 5:26 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > I think your mac dropped the apple, err ball, it inserted the path to the > pics rather than attach them to the email. > > -Kyle > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Music and Nighthawk Nut > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well guys, just by looking at the front of the bike per Dennis, I > > found that nothing is aligned. I have included pics. /Users/macuser/ > > Pictures/iPhoto Library/Modified/2009/Jul 6, 2009/IMG_0423.JPG > > /Users/macuser/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Originals/2009/Jul 6, 2009/ > > IMG_0424.JPG > > /Users/macuser/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Modified/2009/Jul 6, 2009/ > > IMG_0425.JPG > > > Don't know if you guys can see these, but man!!! So what now??? > > Basically the headlight doesn't align with anything, and the forks > > look like they "twist" to the right slightly. On the left side of the > > front turn signal, the bracket is bent in, my gas tank bolts are > > ridiculous. Any ideas??? > > > On Jul 5, 8:12 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'll go ahead and repost Dennis' instructions for checking the frame. > > They > > > worked for me. > > > > It is possible to check the frame quite easily. You need only four items > > to > > > > > perform a critical check of alignment. Two large carpenters squares > > > > (borrow them) and two 8' florescent tubes (burnt out is fine) . The > > back > > > > tire is much wider than the front one. SO, get someone to hold your > > bike in > > > > an upright position and you hold the tubes against the back tire about > > 4" > > > > above the floor with the tubes extending forward past the front wheel. > > The > > > > front tire should fit between the tubes with an equal space on either > > > > side. (# tubes are straight within about .003" and work great for this) > > > > Next, hold one square against the back tire and the floor. Will the > > other > > > > one do the same in front ? Just a simple two axis check for damage. > > Look > > > > under the fuel tank for paint flaking or signs of repaint on the frame. > > > > -Kyle > > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > It's simple to check frame alignment. Few tools needed. What's the VIN > > > > plate say ? In PA you get a new one on recon titles. Look in front of > > the > > > > tank, fresh paint ? Cracks in the paint ? Does it track straight ? > > Hands-off > > > > at 40MPH, easy to keep in line ? > > > > Simplest check of all; put bike on center stand, align front wheel as > > best > > > > you can. NOW, stand in front of it about five feet away, facing away. > > now > > > > get down on your knees and bend over (far over) and look between your > > legs > > > > back at the bike. Before you pass out from being upside down, does > > > > everything look right? Believe it or not, that works. > > > > #PS; don't do this facing east. No telling what will happen. > > > > I can supply a whole set of instructions to check a frame. Kyle just > > went > > > > through this with me. His 700 has been changed a ton. You can borrow > > > > everything needed and it only takes a few minutes. > > > > > --- On *Sun, 7/5/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected] > > >*wrote: > > > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 2:30 PM > > > > > I'm sorry. It's just that alot of guys are...Anyways, I didn't mean to > > > > sound like a lilbit. But I really do appreciate all the advice and > > > > knowledge that you are passing my way. I have another kicker for you, > > > > I found my bike title and yes, it's reconstructed, I didn't pay any > > > > attention to that when I bought it. So maybe a bent frame?? What do > > > > you think?? > > > > > On Jul 5, 11:04 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I wasn't picking on you, just an observation from years in the field. > > I > > > > bought too many cars that turned into money pits and eventually got to > > the > > > > point where I had more in then it was worth. I don't wish that on > > anybody. > > > > When it comes to bikes, I'm a realist. > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" < > > [email protected]< > >http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:10 AM > > > > > > I always check my tires before I ride, just habit due to the guy who > > > > > put my tires 1st didn't replace the valve stems so they would go flat > > > > > in a heartbeat and now that they're fixed I have no problems.So I'm > > ok > > > > > there. As far as my upkeep on the bike, I baby it and try to do > > > > > everything that I know of to keep stuff from tearing up. Anything > > that > > > > > comes up, I either come here or go up to the local bike shop. Just > > > > > with a bike or other form of transportation that you buy in bad > > shape, > > > > > you do your best to get it running, drive/ride it, and then wait for > > > > > the surprises that come up. No my forks aren't leaking, just a > > > > > question, trying to gain lil bits of knowledge. Thank again for the > > > > > info and advice. > > > > > > On Jul 4, 11:42 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Check head bearings by putting the bike on the center stand and get > > > > somebody to hold the back down. With the front wheel off the ground, > > slowly > > > > move the bars from right lock to left using just a finger. They should > > go > > > > from side to side smoothly. A bad bearing will show as a 'notch" > > (usually > > > > around center) Have that condition ? time to replace. I recommend > > having a > > > > shop do it. Too easy to crack a bearing race without the proper tools. > > Cost > > > > ? Expensive but it is a rather long procedure requiring the fork to be > > > > removed. Since you didn't say it happened any other time but passing > > the > > > > truck, they might be fine and you had a one-time turbulence nightmare. > > Check > > > > anyway. > > > > > > Chain maintenennce is general information and anybody with a chain > > > > drive bike needs to perform it regularly. With the bike on the center > > stand, > > > > rotate the back wheel and watch the upper run of the chain. It should > > not > > > > move up and down as the wheel is turned, nor should there be anywhere > > in the > > > > rotation a spot where the wheel gets tight. Lube and adjust. You > > mention > > > > fork seals. Are yours leaking ? > > > > > > # I'm amazed at the number of people who ride without correct tire > > > > pressures, rusty chains, and generally poorly maintained bikes. Worn > > tires > > > > too. > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut < > > [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > > > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" < > > [email protected]< > >http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 7:15 AM > > > > > > > Good Morning, I have been thinking about not trading after looking > > and > > > > > > thinking about my 450, and your advice has played a big part;-) Ok > > to > > > > > > the questions, no I haven't a windshield or anything extra on the > > > > > > bike, yet. Where are the bearings located and how to I check chain > > > > > > tension?? I am waiting on my manual to come in. if the fork seals > > need > > > > > > to be changed, will that make it shake?? Thank you for your time > > and > > > > > > advice!! > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 1:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > A head shake is actually quite easy to diagnose and repair. > > > > > > > First off, I feel bad for you about all the expense. I think > > you'll > > > > find out what REAL expense is if you do the 650 deal. > > > > > > > Now, the head shake; do you have a windshield ? At 75, passing a > > > > large truck, that would be a major cause. Bad head bearings show up > > mostly > > > > at lower speeds (50~55) . Still, check for bad head bearings, tire > > > > pressures, AND, chain tension. A chain with a tight spot will cause a > > head > > > > shake. > > > > > > > # a word about windshields; ever see a stop sign shaking in a > > high > > > > wind ? It loads and then pivots on it's axis and unloads one side, > > repeat , > > > > repeat, repeat. The windshield loads and then pivots the fork and > > unloads > > > > one side. The larger the shield, it gets worse. > > > > > > > ## on a complaint about head shake, AHM directs that all > > accessories > > > > be removed before diagnosis. (see above) [ yes, we will strip a Wing to > > only > > > > original components] > > > > > > > # improperly maintained chains that have a tight spot really > > shake a > > > > front end ? Oh yeah. A chain drive is constantly pulling the back wheel > > to > > > > the left side and that twists the wheel to point right. Every time a > > tight > > > > spot yanks on the rear wheel, the tail wags the dog. > > > > > > > "Wait for an older year" ?? NO, just an '83~'85 650. Later 750's > > > > maybe. I have two 700's > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut < > > [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > > > > > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" < > > > > [email protected]< > >http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:33 AM > > > > > > > > Thankx Dennis for replying back:-) It would be a step up for me. > > I > > > > > > > will be able to find more parts for it if need be. The only > > reason I > > > > > > > am selling/trading it is because the other day when I got up to > > 75 to > > > > > > > go around a semi, the front end started shaking REALLY bad and I > > > > can't > > > > > > > find out why other than a fork problem and from what a Honda tech > > > > told > > > > > > > me would be expensive. He has worked on my 450 since I bought it > > last > > > > > > > year non-running and have spent $2100 on just work. I have done > > some > > > > > > > of the work, but needed help so... I am meeting the guy with the > > 650 > > > > > > > Sun cause he is taking it to a bike shop to have it looked over > > and > > > > > > > get the tank creamed before he lets me see it. I will definitely > > hear > > > > > > > for the valve noise. So maybe wait huh for a older year?? > > > > > > > > On Jul 2, 9:00 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]< > > http://mc/[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > IMHO; I had a '82 CB650sc. A nice bike... just nice. no > > hydraulic > > > > valve adjusters, five speed (not six) chain drive (not drive shaft) two > > > > valve / single cam, cable operated clutch, just the last (best) of a > > run of > > > > pedestrian four cylinder 650 bikes that started in'79. 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