I wasn't picking on you, just an observation from years in the field. I bought too many cars that turned into money pits and eventually got to the point where I had more in then it was worth. I don't wish that on anybody. When it comes to bikes, I'm a realist.
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> wrote: From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:10 AM I always check my tires before I ride, just habit due to the guy who put my tires 1st didn't replace the valve stems so they would go flat in a heartbeat and now that they're fixed I have no problems.So I'm ok there. As far as my upkeep on the bike, I baby it and try to do everything that I know of to keep stuff from tearing up. Anything that comes up, I either come here or go up to the local bike shop. Just with a bike or other form of transportation that you buy in bad shape, you do your best to get it running, drive/ride it, and then wait for the surprises that come up. No my forks aren't leaking, just a question, trying to gain lil bits of knowledge. Thank again for the info and advice. On Jul 4, 11:42 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > Check head bearings by putting the bike on the center stand and get somebody > to hold the back down. With the front wheel off the ground, slowly move the > bars from right lock to left using just a finger. They should go from side to > side smoothly. A bad bearing will show as a 'notch" (usually around center) > Have that condition ? time to replace. I recommend having a shop do it. Too > easy to crack a bearing race without the proper tools. Cost ? Expensive but > it is a rather long procedure requiring the fork to be removed. Since you > didn't say it happened any other time but passing the truck, they might be > fine and you had a one-time turbulence nightmare. Check anyway. > Chain maintenennce is general information and anybody with a chain drive bike > needs to perform it regularly. With the bike on the center stand, rotate the > back wheel and watch the upper run of the chain. It should not move up and > down as the wheel is turned, nor should there be anywhere in the rotation a > spot where the wheel gets tight. Lube and adjust. You mention fork seals. Are > yours leaking ? > # I'm amazed at the number of people who ride without correct tire pressures, > rusty chains, and generally poorly maintained bikes. Worn tires too. > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 7:15 AM > > Good Morning, I have been thinking about not trading after looking and > thinking about my 450, and your advice has played a big part;-) Ok to > the questions, no I haven't a windshield or anything extra on the > bike, yet. Where are the bearings located and how to I check chain > tension?? I am waiting on my manual to come in. if the fork seals need > to be changed, will that make it shake?? Thank you for your time and > advice!! > > On Jul 3, 1:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > A head shake is actually quite easy to diagnose and repair. > > First off, I feel bad for you about all the expense. I think you'll find > > out what REAL expense is if you do the 650 deal. > > Now, the head shake; do you have a windshield ? At 75, passing a large > > truck, that would be a major cause. Bad head bearings show up mostly at > > lower speeds (50~55) . Still, check for bad head bearings, tire pressures, > > AND, chain tension. A chain with a tight spot will cause a head shake. > > # a word about windshields; ever see a stop sign shaking in a high wind ? > > It loads and then pivots on it's axis and unloads one side, repeat , > > repeat, repeat. The windshield loads and then pivots the fork and unloads > > one side. The larger the shield, it gets worse. > > ## on a complaint about head shake, AHM directs that all accessories be > > removed before diagnosis. (see above) [ yes, we will strip a Wing to only > > original components] > > # improperly maintained chains that have a tight spot really shake a front > > end ? Oh yeah. A chain drive is constantly pulling the back wheel to the > > left side and that twists the wheel to point right. Every time a tight spot > > yanks on the rear wheel, the tail wags the dog. > > "Wait for an older year" ?? NO, just an '83~'85 650. Later 750's maybe. I > > have two 700's > > > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:33 AM > > > Thankx Dennis for replying back:-) It would be a step up for me. I > > will be able to find more parts for it if need be. The only reason I > > am selling/trading it is because the other day when I got up to 75 to > > go around a semi, the front end started shaking REALLY bad and I can't > > find out why other than a fork problem and from what a Honda tech told > > me would be expensive. He has worked on my 450 since I bought it last > > year non-running and have spent $2100 on just work. I have done some > > of the work, but needed help so... I am meeting the guy with the 650 > > Sun cause he is taking it to a bike shop to have it looked over and > > get the tank creamed before he lets me see it. I will definitely hear > > for the valve noise. So maybe wait huh for a older year?? > > > On Jul 2, 9:00 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > IMHO; I had a '82 CB650sc. A nice bike... just nice. no hydraulic valve > > > adjusters, five speed (not six) chain drive (not drive shaft) two valve / > > > single cam, cable operated clutch, just the last (best) of a run of > > > pedestrian four cylinder 650 bikes that started in'79. As a Honda > > > technician, I can say they had very few problems. There is one however, > > > they tend to wear the head cover and make valve noise. it can be cured > > > with a procedure that is somewhat costly. If it makes valve noise, I'd > > > pass. Don't get me wrong, I liked mine. Is it a step up for you ? Yes, > > > but it's only about half of what the '83~'85 bikes were. 21K is quite a > > > bit for one of those. Mine had about 8K on it when I sold it for $1100 > > > back in '87. > > > Me ? I'd wait for a good '85. > > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650?? > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:33 PM > > > > I have an offer on my 85 450 Nighthawk for an 82 650 Nighthawk. The > > > 650 has 21000mi and just "needs the seat recovered" and possibly the > > > master cylinder. My 450 needs another carb rebuild since the 1st guy > > > didn't do it right the the gas tank creamed. It has 10685mi on it. > > > Would it be a good trade since I do want a bigger bike?? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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