I'm sorry. It's just that alot of guys are...Anyways, I didn't mean to
sound like a lilbit. But I really do appreciate all the advice and
knowledge that you are passing my way. I have another kicker for you,
I found my bike title and yes, it's reconstructed, I didn't pay any
attention to that when I bought it. So maybe a bent frame?? What do
you think??

On Jul 5, 11:04 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wasn't picking on you, just an observation from years in the field. I 
> bought too many cars that turned into money pits and eventually got to the 
> point where I had more in then it was worth. I don't wish that on anybody. 
> When it comes to bikes, I'm a realist.
>
> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650??
> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:10 AM
>
> I always check my tires before I ride, just habit due to the guy who
> put my tires 1st didn't replace the valve stems so they would go flat
> in a heartbeat and now that they're fixed I have no problems.So I'm ok
> there. As far as my upkeep on the bike, I baby it and try to do
> everything that I know of to keep stuff from tearing up. Anything that
> comes up, I either come here or go up to the local bike shop. Just
> with a bike or other form of transportation that you buy in bad shape,
> you do your best to get it running, drive/ride it, and then wait for
> the surprises that come up. No my forks aren't leaking, just a
> question, trying to gain lil bits of knowledge. Thank again for the
> info and advice.
>
> On Jul 4, 11:42 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Check head bearings by putting the bike on the center stand and get 
> > somebody to hold the back down. With the front wheel off the ground, slowly 
> > move the bars from right lock to left using just a finger. They should go 
> > from side to side smoothly. A bad bearing will show as a 'notch" (usually 
> > around center) Have that condition ? time to replace. I recommend having a 
> > shop do it. Too easy to crack a bearing race without the proper tools. Cost 
> > ? Expensive but it is a rather long procedure requiring the fork to be 
> > removed. Since you didn't say it happened any other time but passing the 
> > truck, they might be fine and you had a one-time turbulence nightmare. 
> > Check anyway.
> > Chain maintenennce is general information and anybody with a chain drive 
> > bike needs to perform it regularly. With the bike on the center stand, 
> > rotate the back wheel and watch the upper run of the chain. It should not 
> > move up and down as the wheel is turned, nor should there be anywhere in 
> > the rotation a spot where the wheel gets tight. Lube and adjust. You 
> > mention fork seals. Are yours leaking ?
> > # I'm amazed at the number of people who ride without correct tire 
> > pressures, rusty chains, and generally poorly maintained bikes. Worn tires 
> > too.
>
> > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650??
> > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 7:15 AM
>
> > Good Morning, I have been thinking about not trading after looking and
> > thinking about my 450, and your advice has played a big part;-) Ok to
> > the questions, no I haven't a windshield or anything extra on the
> > bike, yet. Where are the bearings located and how to I check chain
> > tension?? I am waiting on my manual to come in. if the fork seals need
> > to be changed, will that make it shake?? Thank you for your time and
> > advice!!
>
> > On Jul 3, 1:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > A head shake is actually quite easy to diagnose and repair.
> > > First off, I feel bad for you about all the expense. I think you'll find 
> > > out what REAL expense is if you do the 650 deal.
> > > Now, the head shake; do you have a windshield ? At 75, passing a large 
> > > truck, that would be a major cause. Bad head bearings show up mostly at 
> > > lower speeds (50~55) . Still, check for bad head bearings, tire 
> > > pressures, AND, chain tension. A chain with a tight spot will cause a 
> > > head shake.
> > > # a word about windshields; ever see a stop sign shaking in a high wind ? 
> > > It loads and then pivots on it's axis and unloads one side, repeat , 
> > > repeat, repeat. The windshield loads and then pivots the fork and unloads 
> > > one side. The larger the shield, it gets worse.
> > > ## on a complaint about head shake, AHM directs that all accessories be 
> > > removed before diagnosis. (see above) [ yes, we will strip a Wing to only 
> > > original components]
> > > # improperly maintained chains that have a tight spot really shake a 
> > > front end ? Oh yeah. A chain drive is constantly pulling the back wheel 
> > > to the left side and that twists the wheel to point right. Every time a 
> > > tight spot yanks on the rear wheel, the tail wags the dog. 
> > > "Wait for an older year" ??  NO, just an '83~'85 650. Later 750's maybe. 
> > > I have two 700's
>
> > > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650??
> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:33 AM
>
> > > Thankx Dennis for replying back:-) It would be a step up for me. I
> > > will be able to find more parts for it if need be. The only reason I
> > > am selling/trading it is because the other day when I got up to 75 to
> > > go around a semi, the front end started shaking REALLY bad and I can't
> > > find out why other than a fork problem and from what a Honda tech told
> > > me would be expensive. He has worked on my 450 since I bought it last
> > > year non-running and have spent $2100 on just work. I have done some
> > > of the work, but needed help so... I am meeting the guy with the 650
> > > Sun cause he is taking it to a bike shop to have it looked over and
> > > get the tank creamed before he lets me see it. I will definitely hear
> > > for the valve noise. So maybe wait huh for a older year??
>
> > > On Jul 2, 9:00 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > IMHO; I had a '82 CB650sc. A nice bike... just nice. no hydraulic valve 
> > > > adjusters, five speed (not six) chain drive (not drive shaft) two valve 
> > > > / single cam, cable operated clutch, just the last (best) of a run of 
> > > > pedestrian four cylinder 650 bikes that started in'79. As a Honda 
> > > > technician, I can say they had very few problems. There is one however, 
> > > > they tend to wear the head cover and make valve noise. it can be cured 
> > > > with a procedure that is somewhat costly. If it makes valve noise, I'd 
> > > > pass. Don't get me wrong, I liked mine. Is it a step up for you ? Yes, 
> > > > but it's only about half of what the '83~'85 bikes were. 21K is quite a 
> > > > bit for one of those. Mine had about 8K on it when I sold it for $1100 
> > > > back in '87.
> > > > Me ? I'd wait for a good '85.
>
> > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > From: Music and Nighthawk Nut <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Trade my 85 450 for a 82 650??
> > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:33 PM
>
> > > > I have an offer on my 85 450 Nighthawk for an 82 650 Nighthawk. The
> > > > 650 has 21000mi and just "needs the seat recovered" and possibly the
> > > > master cylinder. My 450 needs another carb rebuild since the 1st guy
> > > > didn't do it right the the gas tank creamed. It has 10685mi on it.
> > > > Would it be a good trade since I do want a bigger bike??
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