Esta mi placer, hermano Stanley
________________________________ From: Dennis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:07:38 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks Interesting, Stanley - thanks! Dennis G. -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of stanley/ Randolph >Sent: 19 September, 2009 09:39 >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks > > >No, it's no secret. Many different examples already exist, most of them using >around 20 - 30 amps, for cars, predominantly. Just type in "hydrogen >generators" in your search box, and there are lots of samples, some even >showing their apparatus working, on U Tube. >The one I make only draws about 2.79 amps, so I can use it on my 'Hawk. The >output is comparable to those using 25 + amps. Only drawback is, because it's >thin wire, it doesn't last as long. I have to replace the wire - oxygen side >- every two to three months. And that's stainless 316, btw. Oxygen is hard >on anything, just about. >Actually, most of them need to be cleaned and the electrolyte replaced every >month or two anyway, depending on how frequently one drives. So, I just take >the cap off, disconnect the wires from the rods going in, and replace >the coils with another set, rinse out and replace the electrolyte. >There's a company out there that sells them and the dude came to the same >conclusion as I did: most units are short - lived. He claims his last longer >than most, with a life expectancy of about 5 years (and he still only warrants >them for one). Most succumb earlier than one year, the better about two. >His, however, need to be cleaned out and elecytolyte replaced also. And the >cost is around $1,000 to 2,500. My humble little job only costs around $90, >and is easily maintained for years with more stainless wire. I send $1.00 per >sale to the originator of this unit. I did alter it, as I am after all, a >tinkerer ( hence my chosen i-net handle - lol...), so that it continues to >produce even when the wire eats through, only not as much. >I have this Izuzu Rodeo that only achieves around 11mpg town driving, and >maybe 15 hwy. I put one of my units on it and realized 16.7 town, and 22.4 >hwy. I was told that it's the big tires that cause the poor mileage. >I don't know, but I will never own another one of those things. I looked >underneath when re-filling the transmission (no tube - just fill it via a plug >underneath - and that while it'srunning!!) and the space between the control >arm and its bumper is only about 1.5". That makes for a most uncomfortable >ride. And the reason? If there were more travel, it just might flip over on >hard turns. >The process is known as electrolysis, and I first did it with salt water, >in high school, which was about 46 years ago for me. I used about 10 >batteries lined up, or about 15 volts, with + and - wires dipped in the >solution. I didn't separate them, so if you put a match to the surface (gotta >be no wind and a decent amount of bubbles), you will see a quick flash and >hear a pop. >I have actually had one of my units blow up once, with a very loud POP! >Didn't hurt anything, just made a big noise, sort of like a backfire. The lid >blew off and the glass broke, but everything else was intact. It was from the >wire breaking and reconnecting, with a spark, above the electrolyte level. >Now I have the wires totally submerged, so if they break, no bang... > >Stanley > > > > > ________________________________ From: Dennis <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:37:46 PM >Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks > > >Stanley, > >You've told us everything but HOW you are going to generate the Hudrogen. Is >it a secret? > >Dennis G. >- Seattle >-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of stanley/ Randolph >>Sent: 18 September, 2009 08:40 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks >> >> >>Keep in mind that hydrogen powered vehicles areburning the hydrogen >>internally, and with a liquid hydrogen tank to increase the volume of stored >>hydrogen, they can still only get about 125 miles out of a tankful. That was >>a BMW with engine designed to handle only hydrogen as its fuel, in theory. >>I do intend to burn it and I am only worried that I will not be able to >>produce enough in the coldest months, because burning it to produce heat for >>a home is not the same as burning it inside an IC engine. >>As it burns, it is also increasing the - HUMIDity, making it feel warmer - >>heat index, ya know... >>As for storing, it's colder at night, so most of the heat will be needed at >>night, and for most of my life I have only heated the room I need, not the >>whole house. >>During the day, when less heat is required, and I use the whole house, I will >>heat the whole house... >>It only takes a hundred cubic feet or two of natural gas a month to heat the >>house, so I expect it won't take that much more hydrogen. I can produce >>about a cubic foot an hour, and if I have eight hours (of daylight), that's >>eight feet. If I am using 100 cubes a month, that's about 3 cubes a day; >>150 is five... >>I am only using the acetylene tank to store the excess and only at about >>110psi because I am using pvc pipe to make my generator. Even if I use >>schedule 80 cpvc, I wouldn't go much over 140psi. You have to reduce the >>pressure back down, to actually use it in a burner. I think natural gas is >>used at about 8 psi, and propane is around 11. At this point I don't know >>what hydrogen needs to be for a burner; I do know that you need to put some >>steel wool downstream of the jet (in the mixing chamber) because the hydrogen >>will pop otherwise. >>I intend to use it in a ceramic type heating unit. >>People still have this idea that hydrogen is dangerous and they generally >>reference the Hindenburg. It wasn't the hydrogen that caused the blimp to >>burn, it was the skin, which had magnesium in the coating. When they >>grounded the ship, in an electrical storm, the lightning struck the skin and >>it burned very very rapidly. Of course, there were some hydrogen bladders >>that were either pierced or burned until unable to seal and the hydrogen did >>burn then, but the disaster was due to the magnesium burning. >>Because the flame of hydrogen burning is so very pale, the only way of >>determining that it is hydrogen burning is when it is dark. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Anthony <[email protected]> >>To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:32:47 AM >>Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks >> >> >>How are you going to generate the hydrogen? Please give us some >>details on your plan. I have some doubts that it will work. I dont >>think that you have enough capacity in a acetylene bottle @ 100 psi to >>heat your house. Hydrogen vehicles store hydrogen at 10,000 psi. >>After you generate the H2 how are you going to generate your heat? >>burn it or use it to generate electric via fuel cell? >> >>Some reading on Hydrogen: >>http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/education/h2iq.html >> >> >>On Sep 17, 3:57 pm, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yeah, but ya gotta admit it was FFFFFFFUNNNEEEEEEEE!!! >>> Seriously, though. I would be storing it in an acetylene bottle, and/or >>> the oxygen bottle for a welding set. That would be thick enough that, with >>> the constant production and use, its slight leakage out would be so slow >>> that it wouldn't be noticeable. >>> I am only planning on about 100- 110 psi. >>> I want to make an ammonia-based air conditioner next year so that I can use >>> a combination of sun and hydrogen to cool the house, instead of the >>> "electrical pig" window units, or "electrical pig" central, with freon. >>> >>> Stanley >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dennis <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:12:52 AM >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks >>> >>> You are bad, Graham. You have to go stand in the corner. >>> >>> Dennis G. >>> - Seattle >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >From: [email protected] >>> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Rogers >>> >Sent: 15 September, 2009 05:44 >>> >To: [email protected] >>> >Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks >>> >>> >he combines it with oxygen and keeps it in a bottle in the fridge >>> >>> >On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Dennis wrote: >>> >>> >Stanley, >>> >> >>> >>How are you making the Hydrogen and how are you storing it? >>> >> >>> >>Dennis G. >>> >>- Seattle >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>>From: [email protected] >>> >>>[mailto:[email protected]] on Behalf Of stanley/ Randolph >>> >>>Sent: 14 September, 2009 13:59 >>> >>>To: [email protected] >>> >>>Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983-85 CB650SC Front Forks >>> >>> >>>Most don't realize it, but hydrogen is safer than any hydrocarbon gas, >>> >>>be it butane, propane, natural gas, etc. If you have a leak, it floats >>> >>>up and through the roof; the hydrocarbons accumulate on the floor and >>> >>>build up. You could die just breathing the stuff in your sleep. >>> >>>Methane, marsh gas, accumulates in valleys, low spots or >>> >>>depressions, when there is no wind. People who are uninformed and make >>> >>>camp in a low spot just may fall asleep that night never to wake up >>> >>>again. It happens down here. >>> >>>Plus, because it doesn't accumulate, there is much less of a likelihood >>> >>>that it will explode. >>> >>>Anyway, it's great to increase your mileage, and I will find out if I >>> >>>will be able to make enough without electronics to heat the house and >>> >>>workroom. >>> >>>No, I still haven't made one for my Nighthawk... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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