I know how good Amsoil is. I've read all of the info. Therefore I'm not 
ignorant to the quality...I just have what I have in my wallet and that's that. 
Mobil 1 seems a good alternative for my broke ass. I can scrounge up that much 
change and it doesn't change the fact that my bike still needs an oil change. 
If I wait until I can afford Amsoil my bike may die the death of thick old oil. 
I appreciate the defense Keith. Stanley is very passionate about what he 
believes and that's not a bad thing, it just needs to be more carefully worded 
sometimes. We all make mistakes and the difference is in our ability to forgive.




________________________________
From: Keith Kindred <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 8:23:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Changing to synthetic...

It is ironic that Stanley accuses Kim of being misinformed when there is so 
much misinformation in his response (I won't go into all of them, as there are 
so many, but we can start by saying that not all Muslims are the same, nor have 
but a fraction devoted themselves to destroying America).  Oil threads are bad 
enough, but jingosim has no place on a motorcycle forum.

My two cents,

Keith


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> wrote:

Kim,
>You are not thinking of the long stretch, only the present.  Amsoil is not 
>even $1.00 more than Mobil 1 which is only suggested to last 5,000 miles.  
>Bank on it:  Amsoil is good for 25,000 miles or more.  That's in writing. 
>You will have paid for 8 oil changes in that number of miles, if you change 
>your oil at the recommended interval of 3,000 miles.  At $12.00 for the oil 
>and $5.00 for the filter, you will spend about $150;  Amsoil, at only 25,000 
>miles, you would have spent about $65.  And if you value your time, you would 
>have NOT spent about 4 hours or more extra time changing your oil (that's only 
>if you do it yourself and not take it to a shop to have them do it), and the 
>time to take it to a recycling center
>So stop with the "I'm poor" and admit you are poorly informed.  The petroleum 
>industry would like nothing more than to take all of your money that it can.  
>The other great thing besides not giving your money to the oil industry is not 
>giving it to the Muslims, who have vowed to destroy the US, to whom they refer 
>as the "great satan. "
>Their man in the oval office is doing his best to weaken us to the point where 
>just a little shove will topple us.  No drilling means the oil on our shores 
>goes only to China, Russia, and other countries who are not so friendly.  It 
>also means we have to buy our oil from the Muslim nations, and that means we 
>are financing our own destruction.
>Oh - and don't let me forget about the illicit drugs being brought over here: 
>the money goes to China and the Muslim nations also, not just S. America.
>Kim, I was undoubtedly more impecunious than you before I received my 
>inheritance, and I realized I could not afford not to use Amsoil.
>I look at the big picture.  I don't see, I perceive.  Yes, I buy Japanese, and 
>not just Nighthawks; but they are still an ally.  Muslims and Red Chinese have 
>never been, and neither has Communist Russia.
>> 
>Stanley
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
 From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]>
>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 2:46:45 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Changing to synthetic...
>
>
>
>Being that I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination I'll give that a try 
>Graham. Your seal of approval is fine by me. We can now stuff our oil thread 
>into a secret back room so nobody gets hurt.
>
>
>
>
________________________________
 From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 1:24:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Changing to synthetic...
>
>I was just at stuffmart  and bought three gals of Rotella T. It had that JASC 
>MA label on it and that's what I look for - $12.00/gal
>>Graham (again)
>
>On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Chris Payne wrote:
>
>> As long as it doesn't have moly (most of the HDEOs don't), it will be
>> fine. Don't use an energy conserving oil. They'll make your clutch
>>> slip.
>> 
>> Any oil from Rotella's line of HDEOs is what I'd recommend. T6
>> (synthetic) is a great oil. T5 (blend) and T (dino) are both great
>> oils also, and you'll save a few bucks
> over T6 as well.
>> 
>> I put T in my 650 the day I bought it. I run T6 in my wife's VTR250,
>> my Rincon ATV, and our Jeep Wrangler. I also run T in our tractor and
>> riding and push mowers.
>>> 
>> Amsoil is good stuff. I've got their MTF in my Acura and Jeep manual
>> transmissions and their gear oils in all my diffs and transfer cases.
>> I also run Amsoil's Saber in my 2 strokes. Great oil can be found on
>>> the shelves at WalMart, so I find it hard to justify the added cost
>> (and shipping) for Amsoil motor oil.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:18 PM, [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Amzoil is great stuff
> (the only 2 stroke oil i let touch the aprilla) but i just dont know about 
> putting synth on a wet clutch...
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Date: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:40:06 pm
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> From: "Joey Kelley" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Changing to synthetic...
>>> 
>>>> Not to continue / start a big Oil War on the subject, but, All
>>> Synthetics are not created equal. The two best ones on the market IN
>>> MY OPINION are Mobil 1 and Amsoil. I was so impressed with the Amsoil
>>>> I had in my last Pontiac I became a dealer. I've since let my
>>> dealership lapse
> (its a yearly renewal) but my opinion of the products
>>> hasn't changed.
>>>            Just my opinion.
>>>              -Joey
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On my last oil change a couple of months ago I went to full synthetic. I
>>>> ride every day, and I haven't feel any difference so far.
>>>> Javier.
>>>> 
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